OT: police refuse to do their job

Read about a similar situation a few years back. Younger drivers (this was teenagers) react faster, but tended to get into difficult situations more often that older drivers. While the younger drivers had the potential to be safer, they took more risks than more experienced drivers, thus causing more crashes. You may find some information on studies done by insurance companies.

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Edwin Pawlowski
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Not my car. Just open the unlocked door and push the trunk release button. I don't believe in locking cars. What is the difference between and unlocked car and a locked car? The locked car get damaged when the thieves look for things to steal.

I've had my cars broken into twice. Total loss was a quart of oil stolen from where it was in the back seat of one of them. Other cars on the street had broken glass, deep scratches, slit convertible top, etc. They had insurance issues, I was out maybe 99¢

One of the TV shows like 60 Minutes had a locked and alarmed car parked on the street. They had a couple of different car thieve drive off with it in plain view of traffic and pedestrians. They were as fast and you and I with a key. If the pros, want it, they will get it. If the druggies wants it, he will do lots of damage along the way.

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Edwin Pawlowski

The over arching legal axiom is that "A duty to all is a duty to none. That means you have no cause of action in civil law for a failure of the government to perform a public duty to your satisfaction or even to any standard. Public servants need only perform their duties to the satisfaction of the elected officials that direct their work.

What this reminds me of is the patient that wanted the fire service operated ambulance I was staffing to transport her to Mary Washington Hospital. Since the trip would have originated in Takoma Park, Maryland and Mary Washington Hospital is located in Fredericksburg, Virginia I had to respectfully decline the request. To that family the request seemed perfectly reasonable. The patient was taking a turn for the worse. Her doctor and medical records were in Fredericksburg, VA. My problem was that the distance between the two is sixty two miles and that, up until that request, I had not known of the hospitals existence.

Who decides what is reasonable effort for a public safety agency. In the instant case the Fire and Rescue Commission of the Montgomery County Maryland government had approved a policy permitting providers to transport to a more distant hospital if in their judgment it would do no harm to the patient and would not extend the transport time more than ten minutes. The decision was written in permissive rather than prescriptive format so that you could never get in trouble by saying no to a more distant hospital.

Mary Washington was a no brainer but what about Holy Cross which is only ten minutes further at 0dark30 but twenty five minutes further at rush hour. Why would the last crew take a family to Holy Cross but we won't. The unit is chained up and it's snowing but our refusal seams arbitrary to this family who's pediatrician is on staff at Holy Cross. The same child with a traumatic injury can go to Children's Hospital, which is twenty to forty minutes further away, but the neighbor child the next day can only go to the Washington Adventist Hospital in Takoma Park because they don't meet the criteria for a specialty referral with their simple fracture of the left arm. Do you begin to see a pattern emerging?

Some times the provider on the scene has to make decisions that are not in the individuals best interest but hopefully are in the interest of the public at large. It is often true that the resultant decision will not endear you to the citizen you are dealing with at that moment.

Reply to
HorneTD

So, follow up and ask "what kind of requirement?" or "what law/rule makes this required?"...

Reply to
Andy Simms

It surely would be tossed out of court.

Reply to
Edwin Pawlowski

Try telling that to the cell phone users. They think they are in perfect control. There have been problem doing any studies of accidents with phone users because of privacy laws and the phone companies fighting it. There are some studies being done in Australia though, and they point to problems.

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Edwin Pawlowski

Hi, Even in police work the bottom line is mighty $$$$ and the value of publicity. Police is not only one less than what it used to be with more high tech abilities than ever. Look at today's media, they make me puke. Tony

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Tony Hwang

Andy Simms wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.interbaun.com:

I would disagree with this. Most EVERYBODY speeds,if only -one- MPH over the posted limit. Which IS speeding,and you CAN be ticketed for it.

Unsafeness is more related to the lack of following other rules of the road,such as signalling lane changes,improper lane changes,running red lights and stop signs,and distractions such as,but not limited to, cellphones. The REAL causes of "accidents". Speed is not one of them. Speed by itself does not cause "accidents".

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Jim Yanik

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in news:tMqLe.1751$A% snipped-for-privacy@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

Younger drivers have not gotten enough experience to recognize potential hazards,and also feel "invulnerable". And past some point,older drivers mental processes slow down enough to not react fast enough for sudden occurrences.They compensate by driving more slowly,stopping earlier,thus becoming an obstacle themselves.

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Jim Yanik

Andy Simms wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.interbaun.com:

He also has no experience in matching fingerprints to others. It's not that easy. And authorities would not recognize his amateur results.

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Jim Yanik

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in news:QZqLe.1756$A% snipped-for-privacy@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:

OTOH,my Integra had the ECU stolen from it,and I was without my car for six WEEKS,while another ECU was built in Japan. I now have an auto alarm.

These days,many cars are targets for having the wheels/tires stolen from them,even with wheel locks,and now even headlamp assemblies are being stolen.(HID lights) A local dealer had the entire engine/transaxle stolen from an Integra on their lot fronting a major,BUSY highway. Having your dash ripped out to get the stereo out from it is no fun,either.

Most auto burglaries are NOT "pros",and an alarm is very useful in deterring them.

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Jim Yanik

"HeyBub" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.supernews.com:

Suspects,actually.

Police are under NO obligation to appear when you call for them. If they are busy elsewhere,you are out of luck. And you cannot sue them for not coming when you call.

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Jim Yanik

About a year ago I was in the waiting room of a medical facility in Worcester, MA. An elderly man, probably about 80, came out of the office with the assistance of a nurse. She had to help him on with his coat, walked holding him to keep him steady even with his cane. When he headed to the door she asked if he wanted her to call a cab or a ride. He replied, "no thanks, I have my car." I was glad he left well in advance of me, but felt bad for anyone that was exposed to him as reaction time was probably 20 times anyone else.

Reply to
Edwin Pawlowski

Possibly because most of the people driving on the Autobahns had to fork out about US$2000 and go through extensive training to get their drivers licence.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that DIFFERENCE in speed is a far greater danger on the roads than speeding itself, and it pisses me off that people who are driving unnecessarily slow are not pulled over and charged as they should be. But to simply use Autobahn statistics to back up speed being safe does not take the big picture into account.

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Calvin Henry-Cotnam

no surprise there. local cops are basically useless. for real crime, they call in either the state or feds, and the locals are basically just secretaries and errand runners. Their real job is to filter out the stuff that would waste a real investigators time (like house breaks, theft, etc). If you want a real investigation, find some way to make sure a handgun was involved. That'll get them interested - especially since there s a chance that they might actually accidentally run into the perp when another crim is in progress, and they *hate* the thought of facing someone with heat......

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jd

Greetings,

This is actually an idea which I have thought of but I wasn't sure if it would expose me to liability. A cheap used handgun is about $70.00 here. If I purchased 10 of them for $700.00 and purchased a small $25.00 lock box for each one that would be about $1000.00 total. I could keep one in every vacant house and with each group of tools and in each glove compartment. I don't see any reason why this should be illegal but I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts on it? My other question is if it would be better to put these handguns in the corporation's name rather than my own?

Thanks, William

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William.Deans

Before, I just thought you were an ordinary idiot. Now, it's clear that you are a stupid, dangerous, psychopath. What town do you live in - the local authorities that you have such disdain for would love to know about this plan.

You goddam moron.

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Dan C

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in news:yQxLe.1092$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com:

They don't have to be physically feeble,they also can be mentally feeble,like they were lost,or unaware of what's going on around them. Living in Florida,I see many of them.

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Jim Yanik

Excellent. Put a lot of guns in readily available places where thieves can steal them, to be used at other crimes. How, exactly, does this help your theft problem?

You seem to be mistaking "illegal" and "stupid". Many stupid things aren't necessarily illegal.

Reply to
Andy Simms

Teach yourself. It's dirt simple. You need:

  1. Very fine black powder. Copier toner works swell.
  2. A small brush with long, fine bristles.
  3. 2" wide, clear, packing tape.
  4. 3x5" cards.

Put the toner on the suspect area. Brush (or blow) away the excess. Press the tape on the print, lift and put the tape containing the print on the card.

For chain of custody, write some facts on the card (date, your initials, location) before adding the tape and print.

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HeyBub

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