Greetings,
The only career I would consider with significantly lower pay is retirement. I shouldn't have to choose a career in law enforcement. I should be protected by the existing police force. I would be willing to take some time to learn more about doing a little of my own detective work surrounding my own runins with criminals as a public service.
William
Greetings,
This is along the lines of what badgolferman was trying to say. The police don't listen to mere mortals. You have to pay someone special to ask the police to protect you and then they will. I have a friend who is a lawyer that I will ask to call the next time I see them. If the police do it for a lawyer but not for an individual I think that says bad things about equal protection.
Thanks, William
" snipped-for-privacy@wdeans.com" wrote
Explain how this would be different as .......... let's say ........... a little side job and hobby as a brain surgeon ....................
I mean, it's about the same thing. Letting a nonprofessional get in there and do the same thing a professional does .........
Steve
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Steve
You oddly ignored the part about more strict training requirements for drivers, and more strictly enforced traffic laws. Speed isn't directly related with the _number_ of accidents (fewer accidents occur per mile of highway than per mile of city street), but it is directly related with the _severity_ of accidents. While many city accidents may be fender-benders, highway crashes are much more likely to end up in deaths and severe injuries.
Ask at any hospital whether high speeds are correlated with more severe injuries, and I suspect you'll get the same answer anywhere.
God forbid that Americans might have to _pay_ for their roadways...
People that speed are, quite often, unsafe drivers.
It's a lot more secure than a trunk in most cars (which can be popped open by breaking a window and flipping a switch in many cars). A locked box in the back of a truck is also fairly hard to break into inconspicuously.
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Greetings,
I know you raised a lot of points saying essentially that for every $2 in we spend on crime fighting we prevent $1 worth of crime. I don't believe it but I am not going to try to dispute it at this time. Instead I am going to ask this.
As a man of principal, should we stand for this ethically?
"Millions for warships but not a penny for tribute" doesn't ring true for you? It is better to have $999,999.99 worth of stolen property and damage than to spend $1,000,000.00 on crime fighting? We might argue about whether or not money spent on crime fighting is cost effective but I believe we will never see eye to eye on the ethical issue.
Rejoice, although I firmly believe I am right on this you appear to be in the majority.
Regretfully, William
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote
You may find some information on studies done by insurance
Perhaps THE most interesting study I saw was the one done in Utah. Cell phone drivers were worse than drunk drivers.
Steve
If you want to know the true reason analyze the growth of government (fed too) and its bloated bureaucracy relative to population over the last 5-6 decades.
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Greetings Steve,
My entire professional life I have never done anything that I was trained to do as a professional. I worked as a consultant for JPMorgan in the investment bank for about three years before switching to real estate investing. I worked in numerous other positions before that. I never had any training of any sort. I never went to business school. I never went to school to be an "electrician." I never went to school to be a "plumber." I have done all of these things and many more successfully. I am not knocking school. I am only saying that a certain percent of people are capable of learning on their own from the available resources around them. Given proper resources I believe that I am, for instance, capable of lifting fingerprints from the metal portions of my car and comparing them to tenant fingerprints. I won't have 100% success, but I bet my success rate will be markedly higher than the "professional" chance of success (ZERO in this case because they won't even make out a police report.)
Hope this helps, William
Many years ago, I had some _engraved_ tools stolen out of a truck while working out of town. I was pissed and disheartened. I did call and report the missing items to the police as I was leaving the area. 2 or 3 weeks later I was back in the area. I asked an electrician from the job of any likely pawn shops to check. I checked where he recommended and found all my stuff. The pawn shop was across the street from local police station. So I went there. They said to come back in a few hours and they would have my stuff. I did and they did. I was lucky. Would have never seen it again if I hadn't done my own detective work.
It's too bad things are the way they are.
Greetings,
Suppose, for instance, that it was a tenant. Why is it so hard to believe that I might be able to lift a fingerprint from the metal portion of my car and match it to that of a tenant? If it isn't a tenant this time then perhaps it will be next time. I do not think that it is foolish and hopeless to try. I do want to know a little more about proper procedure before attempting anything to increase my chances of success.
William
Greetings,
I can always start today requiring it for any new leases signed. Within a year I would have a complete database. Would it be a violation of privacy to acquire it during home inspection? If I change the locks and take the old doorknob home with me is it against the law to fingerprint it once I arrive at my house?
William
"Curly Sue" wrote
For those who missed it, this point was made again and again in the OJ trial, and evidence was tossed again and again.
Steve
STeve
Luke wrote: ..... the cops everywhere I've lived are only
Glad to hear it.
To spend thousands of $$ in salaries and equipment investigating a theft that's probably worth a few hundred $$ in loss at most(and for which the insurance company will compensate the victim) is not efficient use of resources, unless there are easily identifiable suspects. When the police do spend their time investigating these things, usually they find that the property, if recovered, is not identifiable because the owner didn't take take the time and effort to mark the items or to record serial numbers. People don't think it's worth the effort to protect their own property but feel the police should make it top priority when they lose it.
Speeders and drunk drivers kill people and contribute to many times more the property loss than minor thefts. This is where, along with other violent crime, police resources SHOULD be targeted. Saving lives is more of a priority than finding property that the owner didn't even think was worth protecting or properly identifying him/herself.
If I had my house or car broken into I'd be upset and angry but would get over it in a week and life would go on. If a member my family was killed by a drunk driver or a speeding car, I'd be devastated and outraged - for the rest of my life.
Drunks kill. Dangerous drivers kill. Seatbelts save lives.
It never fails to amaze me where people put their priorities and how they trivialize those things that cost us the most grief.
Keith
" snipped-for-privacy@wdeans.com" wrote
Given proper resources I believe that
I was involved in a missing children's organization for about four years. I even got to meet John Walsh on several occasions. Part of the process was ID cards, fingerprinting, and a DNA sample. (a simple buccal mouth swab)
Getting equipment and learning fingerprinting and fingerprint gathering techniques is not the issue. I have fingerprinted hundreds of children. It is easy most of the time. Learning to do fingerprinting, and fingerprint processing is probably something anyone with a body temperature IQ could become very proficient at. Kits are available to the layman from hundreds of sources. Books and instruction manuals abound. I am sure with your intelligence and attention to detail that you would probably be better at it than a lot of "fingerprint experts" that are now being paid to do it.
That is not the problem.
The problem is proving anything in court. You have chain of custody issues. You have probable cause issues. You have circumstantial evidence issues. So many hurdles and obstacles have to be overcome in order to even get INTO court with a case. If it is weak at all, the DA will decline prosecution.
Your frustration is understandable. It is just that you really can't get there from here. Were you to find a print that identified a child killer, the police would have to get all other sorts of evidence to PROVE the case, and not just the one print, as they do on television. And then, they would have to go to court, and back up the objections of defense lawyers regarding chain of custody of evidence, legality of how the evidence was collected, probable cause, and on and on and on.
It's like when a police officer says, "Hey, lets stop this car", even if they find something, it probably won't stand up as a good stop. Sure the bad guys go to jail, but they don't stay there long, and don't do time. Most times they are on the street before the cop is finished with the paperwork, hence the question:
Why do police refuse to do their job?
If your job was shoving sand against the tide, would you become a little weary, too?
Steve
Double-duh to you. The quoted statement above *IS* from the OP, and he has already stated that the tools were stolen from a driving car. Try to keep up with the thread, will ya?
Many financial institutions ask for a thumb print on checks cashed. If they can ask I don't see why I cannot ask. I don't know if tenants will be unwilling to voluntarily give it when signing a lease but I'll give it a try and get back to you. I would provide it if someone asked me. I don't think it is out of line with providing a SSN which (most) everyone provides willingly.
Sue also brought up the chain of custody issue. If there are, for instance, multiple prints on the car apparent after dusting I only have to lift one of them. If someone wants to dispute the chain of custody an officer can come back and lift another print. I do not know if it is possible to lift the same print twice but it doesn't seem unreasonable.
I think it was someone who knew I transport tools in the trunk. Tenants are a large part of that crowd who would be interested in stealing them.
Because people take advantage of the situation. You know that drivers will always want to drive a litlle faster than the speed limit. So before peole were maybe ding 60 while now they will want to do 70. People weren't probably ticketed doing 60 in a 55, but were if they did 65 and 70. Depending on the way the finess were structured, doing 15 over in a zone was pretty hefty, so someone doing 70 in a 55 was hit hard. Someone doing 5 over in a 65 wouldn't be hit hard under old rules but should be under the new, wo they upped the fine.
Think that was done for safety and not to take more hard
Well, when people start driving like Germans we can all drop the speed limit. Let us know when that happens.
You don't appreciate how the real world works. The cop's view is that the do-bad will EVENTUALLY be caught and sent to probation. Maybe not for this crime, but for something. All most all mopes end up sanctioned with community service or some other approbation. It is hoped that, by feeling shame, the reprobates will come to Jesus.
The cop's job is to put away as many crooks as possible, and here he is wasting time taking a report from you! No wonder he's irritated. The cop knows that someday the slope who burglarized your car will be caught in the act - tomorrow, next month, someday.
Don't use "The Club." While it may be made of super-hard Titanium, your steering wheel his made of plastic. One snip of a bolt cutter and your car's a goner. You would learn facts like this in your local Crime Prevention seminar.
True. Don't engrave: stamp. Serial numbers on guns are stamped in place and cannot be removed by grinding. The metal is distorted all the way through and the number can ALWAYS be retrieved. This fact, too, would be brought out in your local Crime Prevention workshop.
When *I* call 911, I first request an ambulance for the squint moaning on my doorstep. THEN I ask for the police dispatcher.
Trouble is, there's not enough money for the cop's to do the job the way most people want it done. In my city, we have over 200 stolen cars, 20 armed robberies, uncountable fights, and 300 burglaries per day. Then there's loud music complaints, abandoned cars, naked pedestrians, and neighbor's-dog-peeing-on-my-bushes calls.
Yes. In my town, the local cop shop divides the world into two classes: Houston Police Officers and thieves.
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