Going paperless would be a good thing except for one thing. It is too
I was trying to change my phone features online. They wanted me to
agree to go paperless so I said ok Why not? I am having to log on
So.............You have to furnish your phone number..... ok.....then
You have to furnish your last 4 ss number ok then
They want to send you a conformation number by phone or mail (no
email) ok then
Pick your username ok I try my email address. Too many characters
ok I pick my nickname..........Name already in use ok
Now.........what is your favorite pets name
NO! No fragging second question. Send me my bill in the mail. Screw
you and your horse. We are talking about a phone bill not a CIA
Why not use your email address and let them email you a password? End
If they make paperless user friendly, I will do it. Not until. You
shouldn't have to ever log in to a web site to get your statement.
Just email the statement. Screw the cloak and dagger stuff.
Not neccesarily. I went paperless with my phone bill.
When I had a problem, I called their 800 number to ask about the offending
calls on my wireless bill..
"Ah yes",she says "I see them, but I can't tell you what they were. You have
to go online to get that information."
So I go to their web site. When I try to login it says my password is wrong.
But this is the password on my magic list of passwords that hasn't changed
in a long time. So now I click the link that will let me reset the pass
word. Now I get the challenge question popup. I should pick a question from
the list to prove it is me.
Next problem, There aren't any questions to answer. I set this up before
they changed the system and the question list is empty. OK it says click
here and we will text you a new pasword. If they can't text it they will
send it by snail mail after 48 hours. Well my wireless phone is not quite an
antique, but it won't receive text, it doesn't take pictures or movies. It
doesn't have GPS capability. It is what I wanted . It is a telephone and
Four days later I get the snail mail with my new password.
Do you think the phone company is just a bit out of control?
I won't tell you the name of the company, but you can fill in the blanks,
As the comedian says "Is this a great country or not?"
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What kind of sanity checks do they have for going paperless? I always
declined it as well as biller submitted drafts fo pay a bill.
Receiving bills paperless: What if I don't/can't get it like computer go to
crap, goes into email la-la-land, etc. (both have happened to me).
Drafts: What if Pedo in Brazil gets hold of my phone number and somehow
runs up a $300 bill? They draft it from my account and on top of that I
start getting legit payments/checks bounced?
Yeah, the desk isn't complete without reams of useless old bills
cluttering the place. They go perfectly with the receipts handed to
me for every insignifigant purchase. If I spot an error and get a
twenty five cent refund, I want another bit of a dead tree to
commemorate the experience. The refund isn't enough, I have to have
the bit of dead tree to prove it really happened. I save them all as
an heirloom. Seeing every phone call I've made embossed on a dead tree
makes the experience complete.
If I want to look up a bill, I go online. Paper bills are as
worthless as junk mail.
Depends on your circumstances. I still get the paper phone bill (for
instance) because I need a paper copy for tax purposes anyway. I figure
I might as well have them send it to me so I don't have to remember to
print it out every month myself.
Try getting a copy of both sides of a 4 year old canceled
check on-line from your "safekeeping" checking account ;-)
Then call that bank for a copy ;-)
Some banks dump their copy/image in as short as 18 months.
I like the irony of paying the phone company for internet
access so they can then bill me on-line. If only I could
charge everyone for the time and expense of paying their bills.
Try getting a copy of a canceled check from the current statement.
Most banks copy and dispose checks.
You'd better learn how to operate a web browser, email client, and
computer file system if you want to live in this century.
WTF would I need a 4 year old canceled check for?
It takes you 4 years to realize that a check wasn't cashed or was
fraudulantly written? I know within the month. Once a transaction is
complete, I don't care how it was paid. The bank statement showing
the money transfer is enough.
Who said anything about banks? Why would the IRS want cancelled
checks for anything that wasn't a tax deduction? Or does "anything
and everything. Even 'normal' stuff is 3 years" subsume only tax
If you're claiming it as a deduction, you should have the check or a
certified copy of same in the folder with your tax records.
The question was why someone would want *A* (I interpreted that as
in singular, one, uno, etc.) 4 y/o check and the reason to keep *A*
check for 4 years or more was to document *A* deduction. Don't remember
where it got off on all.
The fraud is 6 (at least according to the website although I don't
know if that changed recently), but it starts from when the taxes were
due, April 15th 2008 for 2007 taxes. So technically the SofL on 2007
taxes doesn't expire until April 15, 2014. My CPA (and others) tells me
to hang on for seven years (in other words hold my 07 taxes stuff until
2014) to avoid confusion more than anything else.
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