But folks have to *do* something to GET access to USENET. I.e., they
have to go find an NNTP server (paid or free). So, why can't they
know (i.e., "be told") to use this particular server to gain access
to this particular group?
Or, do you just want people to "stumble" onto your group while
they are browsing the hierarchy of available groups?
If they want to watch/participate in any of the available fora
(which is what has taken USENET's place, for the most part), they
have to *find* the particular forum of interest and visit a
specific URL with their browser. This doesn't seem to bother
them (based on the traffic I see at many fora). And, while
there, they have nothing telling them about *other* fora that
they might be interested in visiting...
The difference between forum-based and NNTP-based (as well as email
based) dialogues is that the former tend not to be threaded. You
just see posts in the order they were received and have to mentally sort
out who is replying to whom (by contrast, email and news are threaded so
each reply is tied to a previous message). IMO, this is what makes
forum-based interaction clumsy.
You might also be vulnerable to the author being disinterested in
maintaining that service, forward-going. And, of course, someone (you?)
will have to shell out $$ for the service... (what happens when YOU
get tired of paying for it?)
I don't mean to discourage you but, rather, give you a heads-up to
what lies ahead. Moderation is a thankless task -- regardless of how
it's done (if *you* are the entity that people associate with
"moderation", then *you* will be the one getting an earful about
problems with the "service", etc.).
@RBowman: why are you NO LONGER moderating the group you mentioned?
Yes, but a human being needs to decide that something is "sick";
it's relatively difficult to make a "program" come to that conclusion.
So, it *will* get past your "censor".
I'm off to pay-back yet another favor (with a gross of pecan sandies).
There would be no way for me to "tell" people anything because I would be
relying on them finding the newsgroup that interests them in the same way
that you and I and other found this newsgroup -- which you answered below.
I would have no plans to advertise the newsgroup.
Yes, that's how I found this newsgroup -- by searching the hierarchy of
I do know the difference between forum-based and NNTP-based groups, and
about email "listservs", etc. For this idea, I am only interested in an
NNTP-based newsgroup that can be found in the hierarchy of available groups.
My only interest is in whether a "moderated" NNTP-based newsgroup can be set
up where much of the moderation is automatic and the group flows smoothly
and posts appear quickly for all of the "whitelisted" posters.
And, yes, we could go around and around about the definition of sick,
twisted, trashy, completely off topic posts. I would have no interest in
screening out anything except for the really sick, twisted, trashy, and
completely off topic posts. And, people could whine and complain until the
cows came home about the moderation process. I would just ignore all of the
complaints and not respond.
Then I suspect you will see much less interest/participation than
you might, otherwise. Folks don't come to USENET, in general,
when they can GET to a web site that will give them pretty much
the same information. "Click on this link and you're AT the
information you seek" instead of "set up a news account on some
public server (which YOU will have to find) and *then* go hunting
for the information you seek".
[Or, post through google groups -- ick!]
I think you'll find that groveling through the USENET hierarchy is
an obsolescent means of finding information/forums. Nowadays,
people search for topics (e.g., "home repair") and get pointers
to dozens (hundreds?) of forums and other sources of related
The answer is yes. But, in practice, you will find the answer becomes
"no" -- unless you have someone who wants to take responsibility for keeping
that working. Someone has to "take ownership" for it to work. And,
once that <someone> gets tired of the job, things fall apart -- unless
you can rope someone else into the role.
You'd be much different than *most* of the moderators, then! :>
Most folks quickly tire of the "ingratitude": "F*ck it! No one
is PAYING me to put up with this sh*t!"
As I said before, "good luck". But, don't be surprised if you become
disillusioned/jaded in the process. :<
Thanks. You posted two links:
I had seen the first one before, but I don't think I ever saw the second one
before. The second link is worded in a way that is easier for me to
If I recall correctly, I think I tried writing to Igor or whoever it is to
ask some questions about how the service works. And, I don't think I ever
got a reply back.
At the time, I was think of creating a moderated group using their paid
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