I happened to be in a fairly new building yesterday and needed to use
I pushed the button on the wall and the door opened automatically.
I used the urinal and it flushed itself as I walked away.
I washed my hands in a sink with a motion sensing faucet.
To dry my hands, I had a choice of a motion sensing blower or a motion
sensing paper towel dispenser.
Out of curiosity, I stuck my head into a stall and sure enough, there
sat a motion sensing toilet.
So, tell me, why was there a manual toilet paper dispenser hanging on
Why are they able to automate the entire bathroom experience except
for the dispensing of toilet paper?
Yes, I can see it now....sitting there waving your hands franticly
while the damn dispenser puts out a single sheet every couple of
seconds. Worse yet, it could work like the paper towel dispenser at
work that most of the time has the towels torn off inside and you
spend 5 minutes trying to get a towel.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote the following:
Just remembering a story I heard long ago.
A tree hugger was showing another person how to save toilet paper by
using all of a single sheet of toilet paper to clean his behind after a
"Take the sheet and fold it in half and then fold that in half.
Tear a piece of the inner corner off.
Open the folded sheet with the hole now in the center of the sheet.
Stick your index finger in the hole and wipe your bum".
The guy says "Yeah, but what do you do with that piece you tore out of
"Use that clean your fingernail"
The problem I have with motion sensing devices in restrooms is the darn
lights. More correctly "Occupancy Sensor" lights. If I have a big load
of ready mix to drop, the darn lights go out while I'm on the throne.
Luckily I have at least two flashlights of some sort with me at all
times because I really don't care to grope around in the dark. ^_^
Why would you want the whole bathroom to suck? Half the time I can't
get the automated faucets to work at all, and when they do work, you
can't control the temperature or the flow rate.
reply: The flow rate is set. It starts to get warm when you are finished.
I used to do major conventions in Las Vegas. One was a "sanitary"
convention, having to do with all things related to public restrooms. The
big thing that year was the ability of a person to go into a public toilet
and not having to touch ANYTHING. Of course, the automation would cost one.
As to why they have ANYTHING the way they have it, don't ask me. I can go
in the woods with no human made assistance, and manage.
For others, I guess it takes what it takes.
Soon, I expect, we shall see governmental regulations defining how we should
wipe, which direction, and the fee at the door.
Which, amusingly, was a huge furor during the Roman empire when they went
from public toilets to a pay for **** system so that they could raise more
revenue. Changed from the free public flowing water toilets, which were
light years ahead of their time in hygiene and design.
In today's political climate, you have to admit it is not that far away.
You know, all those things require batteries to operate.
(except the faucets, which I think are hard wired).
They may save some paper towels, but have to keep replacing the
batteries. Where is the savings?
Pay toilets were already used in stores back in the late 70's or 80's.
I encountered a few of them, and I never paid. It's not that hard for
a guy to crawl under the stall door, or climb over the top. Thats
what everyone seemed to be doing, not to mention several doors that
were kicked in. They did not last long. The stores probably spent
more on repairs than they made.
On 12/10/11 2:53 PM, email@example.com wrote:
I'm confused. Are you a troll or just ignorant? (I'm trying real hard to
Electric Paper Towel Dispenser:
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If you ever tried one of these, I can't imagine you'd think it was
Please don't tell me you used to crawl around on the floor of public
bathrooms just to save the cost of using a toilet.
You know, I don't recall seeing *anyone*, never mind *everyone* crawling
under or over stall doors. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but
*everyone*? Give me a break.
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:50:30 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
They have. Once in Italy, once in San Marino, upon entering the rest
room an attendant handed me a supply of toilet paper. There was none
in the stall. I have no idea what the protocol was if you needed
In one case, there was no bowl, but a fixture you squatted over at
I saw that in Italy too. Not common in the larger cities, but
saw it at a train station at Lake Cuomo. Also common in
Japan, again not in upscale hotels in major cities, but saw
it at an industrial company I was visiting.
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