I have Dish and I like the hardware. I have 2 boxes, one DVR one
regular with 2 tuners each. They all output on separate channels for
distribution through the house and 2 tuners use RF remotes that work
just about anywhere in the house. I have all of the outputs combined
into one cable distribution amp that feeds the rest of the house.
That gives each TV a shot at every tuner. The corresponding RF remote
will control that tuner.
The native output of the DVR/tuner feeds my main TV and the other
native feeds my ReplayTV. That outputs on Ch3 for the house amp.
It sounds confusing but it is really pretty easy to use.
Have you thought about an over the air antenna and online streaming?
I dropped Dish over a year ago and have an extra thousand in the piggy
bank now. All I wanted was the news, business news, educational
channels and the military channel. The over the air channels are
usually actual HD an many of the online streaming channels are also.
Dish actually did me a favor when they raised their prices, got me
off dead center and got me to do something I should have done a year or
two earlier. Most over the air channels have sub channels some of those
are pretty decent to watch...
an example of what's available now with online streaming...
Online streaming is only a viable option if you can get 'real' broadband
at a price cheaper than cable or satt. In OP's case, the cable company
is shutting down, which leaves DSL, often not available in rural areas.
Worth a phone call to check out, but you can't assume everyone can get
what is available in built-up areas. They keep crowing about how
broadband is available to 70+ (I think) per cent of US population, but
they never seem to publish the maps for where it is available, on
anything lower than a county-by-county basis. Around here, other than
in rich rural suburbs that offer fiber, once you are five miles from
city limits, the choices dry up real fast. Unless you wanna pay out the
wazoo for 2-way satt, you have dial-up, which is basically useless with
I'm lucky that a 3rd-party DSL company services my neighborhood, since
Ma Bell won't, even though my company's head end is right next to the Ma
Bell offices downtown, so I know it would work. My company charges twice
as much as Ma Bell for the same speed, but they are still cheaper than
Comcast cable, my only other choice.
That's just it. I have a verizon 3G hotspot and even when I get the
best signal I can't watch a youtube video without it stopping all the
time to buffer more of the video. I doubt netflix or some other
streaming video service would be any better.
That's exactly right. I just traded a 440k dsl for a 1mb+ radio
connection and the videos still don't stream everytime. There's no way
i'd depend on the internet for tv shows. It's tedious enough watching
the leno highlights that way.
remove the "not" from my address to email
You can watch that and a buncha other cable tv shows from streaming
only Netflix for about $15 mo. I think most of those really lame
watch-the-dysfunctional-family reality shows are stupid as Hell, but I
did enjoy one season of Swamp People.
I sent Dish an email and asked them why a new customer gets such great
deals and loyal customers of 12+ years get nothing. They gave me the
same offer and I had to act-on it in 90 days.
I don't think DirecTV would have paid any attention.
We are starting with Dish. Two year contract with 120 channel package
includes free HD for life, free DVR, free installation for up to 6
rooms (Only need three). First year discount from $44.95 to $29.95.
However you have to pay a $6/mo "maintenance" fee for the DVR if you
get it. We decided to skip the DVR since our TV has a built in DVR
which we seldom use. We are adding a $3 bundle for three outdoor
sports channels. We also got a $50 referral discount from a
neighbor. Probably more TV than we will need.
A local Dish company set up shop in our grocery store and will have us
hooked up mid-week.
And if we want they will mount the #@%^!)& antenna on a POLE! :o)
I don't know all the particulars, but what if the subscribers buy out
the cable company and make it a co-op. There are many small co-op cable
companies in the country ... there used to be even a lot more, but Dish
and DirecTV have probably killed them. BTW, beware of the 722 Dish DVR.
It's a box full of software and hardware errors. I've had 3 of them
over 2 years and all three do the same identical dumb things. When
skipping, it's a crap shoot where they might skip to. They occasionally
get so goofed up, you have to re-boot the unit. Sometimes when it gets
really screwed up, it even reboots by itself.
I don't think it is that easy. The cable company I had for 25 years sold
out to a bigger one because they could no longer compete technologically We
became a MetroCast subscriber be default. After a few years, I ditched them
for DirecTv because even after an upgrade (and higher prices) they could not
offer the HD cannels I wanted.
Be aware that the 'free' installation is often worth what you pay for
it, done by subs that are paid on a per-job basis. SOP around the cities
I have spent time in, is to staple wire to outside of house and drill
through walls, versus running the cable properly. Unless your existing
wiring is old RG59 crap or something, your existing wiring may be fine
for them to use, and all they have to do is come from the dish to
wherever your main TV is, and tie into the old wiring from output side
of receiver. Insist that the tech do an eyeball inspection of existing
wiring before he gets out his Big Drill. Often, replacing some
substandard splitters and a few connectors is all it needs to work just
In this area all work is done by small companies - people you can look
at face-to-face. This group is out of Chanute and handle all sales
and installations ourselves. That's OK - we are rural. The two 800
phone calls I made put me in Phoenix and Philadelphia.
I might take the POLE (mast) option rather than attach to the house.
We have a flower bed with direct thru-wall access from the unfinished
part of the basement where the cable circuits terminate now. One of
the 4-5 foot masts keeps it down out of the occasional 60-80+ mph
thunderstorm winds and off of new house finish.
Just my personal opinion, but I would not even consider using either
of those two companies.
I've never used them, but know people who have. They'll constantly
find ways to get more money out of you, have lousy repair service, and
good luck trying to get a real person, particularly one who lives in
the US. And if you want to cancel their services, good luck getting
out of thir contract, they will continue to take money out of your
credit card even after you tell them to cancel..... and the list goes
on. Not only that, but they are intentionally killing all the smaller
Go ahead look them up on the BBB site. They're just like whaty
Earthlink/Peoplepc are to the internet world. Crooks !!!!!
My only personal connection with them is contacting them to tell them
to stop spamming my snail mail box with their damn ads. Every few
days or once a week at minimum I get their junk in my mailbox. I
called them, did the "return to sender" routine, and even wrote to
them asking them to STOP sending me their junk. I clearly told them
that I have no interest in their product and never will. After nicely
asking them to stop sending me their junk, I told them I was going to
start billing them for a handling fee to dispose of their junk. I
also accused them of being polluters with all the paper they mail out.
On the phone they told me they would remove me from their mailing list
but it would take up to 6 weeks. That was at least 3 years ago.
None of this did anything. I still get their crap every few days and
so do all my neighbors.
DO NOT SUPPORT COMPANIES LIKE THEM. Shop locally, and support
At one time you were probably right, but they have changed. I've been with
DirecTV for a year now. The few times I've called, I was surprised at how
fast I got a real person, in the US, on the phone. They spoke English and
wee very helpful.
I did need service once. They had someone out next day. They had a bad
component from a supplier and quickly replaced it. Both the original
installer and the service tech were courteous.
As for buying local, how many sat TV providers do you have in your town? Or
cable TV providers? They tend to be large companies that have franchises
for a town pr part of the state and no real choice. That is changing with
U-Verse and FIOS though. but they are huge non-local companies also.
There are few choices if you want to watch History, Science Channel, Travel
Channel, etc. They are not available OTA and can be a PITA with Hulu and
other web based sources. Meantime, I lay out a few bucks and have a DVR so
I can skip commercials, it records my favorite shows for me and I watch at a
time I choose. While I can always say no, I prefer to say yes and watch my
choices in TV when I want to watch them.
While I agree most of the time, I bought a new Weber Summit grill (S-470 if
you want to do your own comparison) a couple of weeks ago. The price
locally was $500 more than what I paid from an internet supplier. I
probably would have paid $50 more, but $500 is just too much to support Mr.
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