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<emily latella voice on> OH, well that's different, nevermind.
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That's a very good idea. I used to know that but I forgot. :( .

Also good idea.
Well, I looked today and it is definitely low, 1/3 of the tank or more. And it's supposed to be down to xxxx tonight, so I decided to do nothing until it's a little warmer. I'm working at home these days.
Called the local consumer auto parts store and the radiator is 145. Not sure how it compares to the three qualities two online stores had, including the one for 105 including shipping and (no) tax. This one is just down the street of course.

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Do you know WHERE it's leaking? It would kind of suck to spend $150 dollars swapping radiators only to discover a pinhole leak in the hose...
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Probably less than half that at a junkyard. Most yards guarantee rads against leaks -- if it leaks, bring it back and they'll give you another one -- but you'd better ask first.
Just don't expect your money back if it leaks. One of our local yards used to have a big sign behind the counter: N F C R in letters two feet high. Stood for "No ... Cash Refunds". Almost all yards have the same policy, if not always quite so colorfully expressed. But I think every one I've ever dealt with had an exchange guarantee on radiators.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:59:03 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

I'm sure I would be up for that if I hadn't had a "bad" experience with my mother's car. The first two leaked and when they fixed one of them, it leaked too. Back and forth to the junkyard, in and out of the car. I don't remember how much hers would have cost new, if, allowing for the price index, it was more than mine or not.
OTOH, even though the website could send me the wrong radiator, elsewhere I've had good experience with webvendors, so that doesnt' feel likely to me.
BTW, Goedjn, I thought I scratched the radiator a month ago so that's why I'm pretty sure that's where the problme is. But I will look for confirmation. It's supposed to be in the 50's on Saturday.
I could do all this in below freezing weather if I had to, but the weather is such here that if I wait 2 or 3 days, I won't have to.

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Until the temperature gets up and it start to spew out from under the cap. It may lose more from the cap than from the present leak.
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

You just loosen the cap to the first notch (1/4 turn?) to take the pressure off the spring. The "spew" goes into the overflow tank.
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Propylene glycol (RV antifreeze) is safer but not cheaper and it won't get you that -134 degree protection.
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You don't get -134 degree protection from ethylene glycol either.
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snipped-for-privacy@milmac.com says...

freeze freezes it won?t crack a block like water will. Water is the only material that expands when it freezes. Anti-freeze shrinks so it won?t bust a block, as long as you don?t try running the engine with it frozen (solid antifreeze doesn?t cool well.
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Are you sure water is the only material? While I agree the vast majority do shrink, I doubt water is the only one that expands instead.
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On 25 Jan 2007 08:59:39 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote:

I believe water is the only LIQUID that expands when it freezes. There are other materials that expand.
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snipped-for-privacy@zwim.com says...

I believe it?s unique. Most chemicals/compounds are liquid under some condition.

Example?
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Some metal alloys expand as they cool. No, I don't know the exact formulas off the top of my head.
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Bismuth, antimony and alloys containing same:
http://www.alchemycastings.com/lead-products/fusible.htm
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The metal alloys I'm thinking of have antimony in them.
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Kool-Aid?
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:49:40 -0500, krw wrote:

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