I've seen it happen, too. It was more common a few years ago, perhaps the
CCCs had a push on. If they don't match, I think the directions are to ask
for identification, just as if the card is unsigned.
My card rides around in my back pocket by itself. so consequenty, the
sig is wiped off often. The best ones are when the cashier will say i
can't take that if it's not signed. THEN have me sign it, then they'll
take it. LMAO! And then there's the stores that don't even require a
sig under $50. And then there's the gas pumps.... you put in your
debit card, then it asks if you know your PIN. If you say "no", then it
takes it anyway. !!
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"Prices listed are the lowest cash price. The cash price is a 6 cents/
gallon discount from the credit card price."
I think it was Flying J that first tried passing CC service fees on to
the customer but that was declared "illegal", so they just swapped to
a discount for cash.
Bigger trucking companies that buy a lot of fuel negotiate discounts,
sometimes based on a graduated usage scale.
I once drove for a small company that only had 6 "authorized" fuel
providers, coast to coast. If you fueled elsewhere, that was -your-
fuel. That'll challenge your trip planning abilities.
Depends on the station and the brand. Some do, most don't. The price is
usually posted as cash and credit someplace. One discount station I use
charges extra only for AMEX. State laws may come into this also. Using a
card saves a trip into the store to pay, but not worth the premium price.
I try to buy my gas in MA as it is cheaper than CT and some towns have full
service at the same price as self serve. Local fire marshal decides if self
serve is allowed.
Only in CA. Cross the border into NV and Arco stations do, indeed,
take credit cards.
OTOH, some other states like CO, where I now live, have no concept of
basic CA style ATM (NOT debit!) cards which you can use almost
universally in CA. I tried to get an ATM card at a bank that also has
branches in CA. I was told by a handfull of new acct reps that no
such animal existed. I told them I'd been using an ATM card to buy
retail items at most retail stores and the head bitch told me she'd
been in the banking industry for 25 yrs and no such ATM card existed
in the US banking industry. I just got up and left. Apparently, the
only thing an ATM card is good for, here, is to withdraw cash from
YOUR acct at YOUR bank's ATM machine, period.
All states do not bank the same.
I don't like using either! Both can be used by ANYONE passing it to
an inattentive clerk (is there any other kind?). As you say, you can
sign Rin-Tin-Tin and it will pass. With a true bank ATM, only by
entering the correct PIN will it work. Unfortunately, the whole
concept is completely alien in CO.
On 10/11/10 08:20 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
So perhaps that's why on a recent trip to Canada I still had to go into
the office to pay even though I had swiped my US card at the pump and it
had allowed me to pump my gas.
-- And it was concerning such situations as this that I referred in an
earlier message to the difficulty of canceling a purchase if an
electronic signature was required (which the previous poster had said he
refuses to do) and the gas had already been pumped.
It was your location or your car. I had a Dodge van and a Honda
Civic. Both ran Arco better than any other brand. The van, which had
a non-stock cam, pinged badly during very hot weather. Arco was the
only regular I could run so my van would not ping badly. This in NorCal.
I know not where in NorCal you are, but in SFBA, that is not the case.
In fact, the San Jose Mercury did a whole Sunday issue on how gas was
distributed in the SFBA. It all comes from the same place, refineries
about 40 mi N of where I lived, all originating through the same
pipeline. Each brand has diff additives injected into the main
pipeline, but it's all the same base. As the base gas moved past a
certain point, tens of thousands of gals at a time, additives were
injected. Over the entire length of the pipeling, several brands were
being pumped at the same time, the intermingling between 2 diff brands
amounting to no more than about 50 gals. As the diff brands of gas
passed different points, valves rerouted them to diff distro stations.
It's all computer controlled split-second timing.
I recall Arco ran very well in my vehicles when it was 10% alcohol.
The Shell station across the street from the Arco station, ran the
worst in my van. Hard to start and pinged like crazy.
That was that whole MTBE fiasco that was pushed by the oil companies
and perpetuated by NAFTA extortion articles. Then Gov Davis tried to
kill MTBE in favor of ethanol, but was stopped cold by the Feds. I'll
not go into it, here, cuz it's some real slimey politics, but Davis
backed down for later concessions beneficial to CA in the future.
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