On 1/16/2014 1:47 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
credit for killing Osama bin Laden but you don't give him credit for
thousands of innocent men, women and children killed by the U.S.
military. So is Obama only responsible for terrorists killed by Navy
Seals and not by other members of the military? He IS Commander In Chief
of ALL U.S. military forces so HE is responsible for EVERYTHING
they do even when a soldier murders innocent civilians. In your mind,
what little there is of it, Ramboma jumped out of a helicopter with an
M-60 machine gun in one hand and a Bowie knife in the other, wiped out
all OBL's guards then ran up the stairs into OBL bedroom, confronted him
and said, "Surrender or I'll organize your neighborhood!" to which OBL
responded, "I'll never surrender to an Affirmative Action moron like
you!" This really made Ramboma angry so he shot CBL in the eye. Ramboma
really saved the day although he did lose one top secret helicopter
which is now in the hands of the Chinese. We can't forget to give him
credit for everything. We mustn't be selfish when giving Ramboma credit
for his military prowess. ^_^
A couple weeks back, there was report of a military
mission where the helecopter full of soldiers saw bad
guys. They radio for permission, but were told not to
engage. This happened repeatedly, until the bad guys
shot down the US helecopter. Lost several US soldiers
to that bad decision.
If the military was run in WWII like it is now, we would all be speaking
German on the east coast and Japanese on the west coast.
"Headquarters, we got German soldiers coming at us with guns. Permission
"Headquarters, we have Japanese landing on the beach."
"Put in the proper forms for ammo, we'll have them
approved in a few weeks. Also we are manufacturing
new 7 round magazines for your Garands, and 7 round
magazines for your M-1 carbines. New 7 round belts
for your M-60. We're also requiring micro stamping
of all weapons, which must be turned in until the
micro stamping is complete. This is direct from
Washington and Sacramento."
Yup, Johnson started all that micro management crap in Vietnam. Virtually by
definition, American liberals are unable to trust the military to do it's job
and accomplish assigned tasks without a presidential puppeteer.
Liberals have innate distrust of and disrespect for the military.
Conservatives have innate distrust of government as a whole and tremendous
respect and appreciation for our military. Conservatives also have tremendous
sympathy for our military when led by a liberal.
Yes, war is stupid and wasteful. But I don't see an end to it anytime soon.
There are too many people who will shoot over "Who are you looking at, bub?"
My husband doesn't like to hear me say it's stupid and wasteful; he believes
technological progress comes from war.
By someone who can't spell Peloponnesian?
In my defense, I haven't often thought about the Peloponnesian Wars
since reading Thucydides (in translation) in college lo these many
years ago. (Where "lo these many" = 38.)
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:32:15 -0600, The Daring Dufas
That's bullshit. We lost that war because the Vietnamese people were
against us. Maybe we could have destroyed the whole country, instead
of just using chemical and biological weapons on large parts of it,
but we couldn't win.
We prevented the free elections that were promised in 1956 because Ho
Chi Minh would have won 80% of the vote. They fought against the
French, then the Japanese, then the French again. We were footing the
bill for 70% of the French war effort by the way.
So we finally got directly involved and lost, not because the military
had their hands tied, but because we were on the wrong side. We got
into that war with lies, the famous Gulf of Tonkin lies. Only two
Senators, Morse and Gruning, had the guts to vote against it.
And frankly, we had no business there in the first place. Oh, that
isn't exactly right. I had no businesses there, you probably had no
businesses there, but the US corporate elite had investments that
needed protected and that's why we were there. Not freedom, not mom,
not apple pie. Money.
And, like the vast majority of people protesting that war, I had no
argument with our soldiers, they were just doing what they were told.
My cousin was in the army and fighting in that war. Our fight was
always againt the poltiticans and ruling class that pushed that war.
Funny how the lefty, commie sympathizers re-write the cause of and the
end-of that conflict. I guess the Paris Peace Accords did not mean much
for the South Vietnamese, but the U.S. sure bailed ASAP. We are done,
bye! Sorry for getting your hopes up. Yep, that's the last chopper and
enjoy the slaughter that is coming your way, oh, and to our friends in
Cambodia and Laos? FU too!
The U.S. has not prevailed in a military conflict since 1945 (perhaps
with the exception of Granada). With the kind of culture and
consequent political leadership we have, we are not likely to win any
in the future.
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