If you find that your newsreader (OE) doesn't properly quote some messages
(especially those from google groups), there is a freeware fix called "oe
I have been using this for over a year now, with no problems whatsoever.
p.s. No affiliation with the software or it's author, other than being a
happy end user.
Too late...I hated how OE would not get the quotes right, and for no
apparent reason. I upgraded to Windows 7 which uses Windows Mail instead of
OE. Windows Mail is a horrid news reader - load up a really large newsgroup
and watch it crash. So I switched to XNews, and I'll never again use OE or
any other Microsoft mail or news product :)
I did. I went from Windows Mail to Thunderbird (which I do use for email
btw) but I didn't like how it handled newsgroups. Xnews gives much more
control, and unlike OE, WLM, and Thunderbird, is very fast and efficient
with very large newsgroups. All the others choke when you have two
million messages. Xnews zips right through it no problem.
Since I also use Thunderbird, I can say that I don't hate it. It does
work pretty well (definitely way better than Outhouse Express!).
Having said that, Thunderbird (and other Mozilla software) does suffer
from a number of problems, some of them due to its being open-source
software. Worst problem, that you seem to have experienced, is that it
can be really slooooooooooow. Especially when dealing with newsgroups
with large numbers of messages.
The problem is that the software is created by many hands, each person
working on one little module. The modules get connected together to
create the application. The problem is that because of this modular
approach, there's little or no higher-level design of the kind that
regular software developers to do in order to optimize the performance
of their programs.
Let me explain: in the open-source world, developer A writes module A
that calls module B: developer B writes module B, that calls module C.
Repeat as needed. The result is a bunch of deeply-nested calls where the
actual work is done at the bottom of the call chain. Often this results
in a big performance hit, compared to "unrolling" the chain and coding
There are other problems with Thunderbird. I've gotten used to most of
them, but they can be rather annoying. You can always put in a bug
report (on Bugzilla), but that's its own pain in the ass. And if you're
not a computer-geek type, fuggedaboudit.
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.
OE QuoteFix is, AFAIK, the only thing available that's half-fast reliable
and works consistantly. The two best sources for it are:
Both sites are safe & reliable, no covert probing, data collection etc..
For groups, it'll put your cursor at the bottom and your sig a the botton,
or you can change it if you wish. It does nothing to change OE; it just sits
on top of it and "fixes" some of the problems left in OE 5 & 6. You can use
OE with or without it by pressing a key or using the other icon.
It's not perfect and was abandoned years ago by its author, but it's
functional and does what it says it'll do.
I'd highly recommend it if OE is your client of choice.
Newsgroups are great places to get assistance.
Back in the day when I used Outlook Express, I also used Quotefix with
good results. As for affiliation with the authors of the software, it's
freeware, so it can't make any difference.
Don't know them myself either.
As far as I know, there are versions available for Outlook and Outlook
Express, but that's it.
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