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"David Copperfield" 1850
[The prison] was an immense and solid building, erected at a vast expense. I could not help thinking, as we approached the gate, what an uproar would have been made in the country, if any deluded man had proposed to spend one half the money it had cost, on the erection of an industrial school for the young, or a house of refuge for the deserving old.
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I wonder if Dickens is required reading in the schools any more.
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On 02/24/2014 06:17 PM, Guv Bob wrote:

I don't know. When I was in school I was able to get through "Great Expectations" OK. I was a bit bothered by the two endings however. I also read (but only partially absorbed) "A Tale of Two Cities".
Now that I'm retired I can finally get to his other works and have read "Bleak House" , "David Copperfield" and re-read "A Tale of Two Cities"
Additionally , I decided to also read "Tom Jones" by Henry Fielding
All of the above I enjoyed immensely.
A lot of the literature I was going to save for retirement such as the "War and Peace" , Anna Karenina and "Ulysses" I read a number of years prior to retirement.
I found that the secret to getting through "Ulysses" was to read the corrected version. It seems there were so many publication errors it took a group of scholars ten years to go through Joyce's manuscripts and sort things out.
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philo wrote:

Maybe it would be good to meet some of the folks that they were going to protect society from, and their potential further costs to society, before we decide they overspent!
That said, the institution seems to have big issues these days.
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On 02/24/2014 06:23 PM, Bill wrote:

Back in those days a lot of the folks in prison were debtors. At least the idea of a debtors prison has been abolished...although it may be making a come back.
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On 2/24/14 8:00 AM, philo wrote:

Unfortunately, the construction of the latter doesn't negate the need for the former.
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On 02/24/2014 06:27 PM, Dean Hoffman > wrote:

I just thought it so interesting that the problems we see today are by no means new problems.
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On 2/24/2014 7:38 PM, philo wrote:

And the Obama socialism will work out about as well as the other historical attempts. Just like the Obama gun control, the Obama welfare, the Obama voting and elections, and so on.
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On 2/24/14 6:38 PM, philo wrote:

Agreed.
Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers. [info][add][mail][note]Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC) From: http://tinyurl.com/mhxzwkv
I like to read but no one can accuse me of being smart.
The U.S. defense secretary is talking about cutting our defense forces down to pre WWII levels.
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On 02/24/2014 06:52 PM, Dean Hoffman > wrote:

Good one!

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On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:52:12 PM UTC-8, Dean Hoffman wrote:

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Hmmm ..might not be a bad idea, considering how much of said budget is graf t to contractor friends of the government(Iraq, Afghanistan,etc.etc. And g azillions for unnecessary equipment, especially horrendously over-run aircr aft being built in the states of corrupt Senators and Members of Congress w ho gobble pork for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
The military actively doesn't want & can't use some of this wildly expensiv e stuff, but pork must be pork, the taxpayers be damned.
So yeah, let's take a look at where the money really goes.
Perhaps a few sous thrown in the direction of brain-damaged, addicted, wrec ked veterans who were getting shit for care until recently, with very gradu al improvement as a result of popular outrage...?
Recommended reading: THE GENERALS by Thomas Ricks. Contrasts the REAL gen eral officers of WWII with their bureaucrat time-server ass-kisser equivale nts today.
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On 02/24/2014 10:47 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:

That's why I liked Eisenhower, he was there and knew what it was like.
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