My first PC was a first day ship IBM PC-1 that cost about 2 grand
(employee price) with two 128k diskette drives, a tape recorder "mass
storage" and a whopping 64K of RAM. (Epson dot printer and mono
Several years later I did the $300 WDWX1 controller/ST238 upgrade to a
hard drive but that also required a new system board.
My old one suddenly just "went bad" and I had to replace it on the M/A
... funny how that works huh?
I had a problem earlier with one of those diskette drives and needed a
new one too. They only had the 360K. ;-)
I'm thinking a large disk in mid 70's was about 20 kb or perhaps mb. ?
In 1969 loading a program by paper tape into a $10k pdp 8/I first required
you to manually machine code the program on switches so computer would know
how to read the paper tape. Back when an oscilloscope was what you used to
I must confess, I have found good deals at complete computers or laptops at
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:09:38 -0400, email@example.com wrote:
Ditto, though I had a single-sided diskette drive and 48K memory (the minimum
available on the employee models). It didn't stay that way long, though.
Within a year it had two double-sided drives and 704K memory. ;-)
I still have it, but I highly doubt it'll boot.
The original IBMs were 140K. I always ran with two drives and a third RAM
drive. When I booted, the first thing AUTOEXEC did was to copy B: to C:.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:23:46 -0500, The Daring Dufas
I remember when a 20mb drive was cheap at $500.
My then Brother-In Law bought a PC, and by the time he had upgraded
to DSDD floppies, then an add-on hard drive, and an EGA monochrome
video card and monitor, it had cost him more than his new Ford
Ranchwagon, loaded with 460, posi, and AC
You are not thinking outside of the box, and are suffering from tunnel
A properly set-up laptop as the equal to your "big honking box"
but with a smaller footprint
AND a backup battery
I also have no problem hooking up 2 monitors, a keyboard and a backup HD to
Just because it's "portable" does NOT mean that it cannot perform in a
non-portable role as well
I have 2 older laptops acting as server and firewall.
Not only are they on a smaller footprint but they also use less power.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:33:01 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
How do you hook up two monitors? Even with my docking station (a graphics card
doesn't work in it, for some reason) I can only connect one external display.
I used a USB adapter (they're *slow* but still useful) but it wasn't reliable
enough (worked at first, then nothing, reinstall, worked, nothing...).
Battery "backup" doesn't work, either. When the power drops the system
reboots or hangs. That may be a dock problem, though.
When I replace mine, they're dead. My wife's screen died last fall and for
some reason it doesn't like running without it. I'll have to try again
Not as fast, either, but I don't miss that aspect at home.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:33:01 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
I've yet to find a laptop keyboard that is a comfortable to use as my
full sized MS keyboard. Even on my wife's 17" laptop. Sure you can
hook up all that stuff to it but then you have to take it off if you
want portability; always a compromise. Oh, I also have good speakers
and a sub woofer too.
Sure it "performs", but just not as comfortable to use at my desk.
CPU is a couple of feet away and not taking valuable space. Not a
consideration. I do have battery backup for about 30 minutes with a
UPS, but longer does not make any difference once the router goes
down. I never had the desire to sit in the dark and work on a
My computer guy also charges less to work on desktops than laptops and
can usually get parts faster an cheaper. If it works for you, fine,
but advantages are minimal at best.
I have docking stations and port replicators for that. Monitor, keyboard,
mouse, and assorted disk drives stay with the docking station. When I go
mobile, all that stuff stays behind. I also bring my software, at the same
level, with email and NG bookmarks with me. It's much better than having a
I don't see how there is a difference. I have my laptop and dock on a small
shelf next to my main monitor so both are at the same level. It works fine.
How often does your hardware fail? Other than catastrophic failures (monitor)
and disk drives, I don't recall the last time I had a hardware failure. Laptop
"monitors" aren't reasonably replaceable but disk drives are trivial.
you get more processing power from a desktop,they last longer,and don't
need pricey new batteries every so often.
Laptops are more prone to damage from traveling,so they don't last as long.
Plus,you can configure a desktop or tower PC to be a DVR and record several
TV channels at the same time. you can do audio processing,converting CDs to
other files,or vinyl records to digital files.
Batteries need to be replaced, perhaps, once during the life of the laptop.
After market batteries aren't terribly expensive. I've had this laptop five
years and replaced the battery six months back - $40. I certainly don't
expect to have this laptop in another five years.
Desktops don't travel. So?
Not if you have digital cable. Besides, that's what the DVR is for.
...and that can't be done on a laptop? Shhh! Don't tell mine.
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 20:57:33 -0400, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
They have "cable cards" in them that you get authorized like a cable
box. I haven't done anything with that but the guys at AVS forum can
tell you more than you want to know about it. I still use my ReplayTV
and I have a DVR from Dish.
I use the PC I have connected for music and streaming content directly
from the net.
(Hulu, HBO-Go etc)
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