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On 2/1/2014 2:43 PM, Lab Lover wrote:

I'm not PC so it is OK by me.

OK by me too. Having a physical disability does not make you too poor to pay for parking.

Here in CT a doctor has to sign off on it.
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I think that is the case in most, if not all states. However, I have known quite a few less than honest and ethical doctors.
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That seems to be the root problem, no? Grab a few licenses and the message will go out.
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On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 17:33:28 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote:

Yeah, can't even get the medical boards to pull licenses when male psychiatrists have sex with 15 year old male patients..... Probation, everyone gets probation.
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I am seeing it more and more and more and more. IMO the only people who are denying the abuse are the ones benefiting from it.
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On 2/1/2014 3:07 PM, Zaky Waky wrote:

Yeah, they've caught college athletes using handicap hang tags around here. Culture of entitlement.
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It is probably easy for them to get approval for the tags from the team doctor when they suffer injuries on the field / court.
It would be an interesting idea to give law enforcement the authority to pull the tags when they witness their use by people who are obviously capable of unimpeded movement.
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On Monday, February 3, 2014 6:25:20 AM UTC-8, Lab Lover wrote:




City of Spokane, WA is pulling the privilege of unlimited _no pay_ parking in metered spots. They were losing millions to it.
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Per Lab Lover:

I'd call that non-feasible because pain cannot be objectively measured and I'd guess that a significant proportion of handicapped parking permits are issued because the user experiences pain while walking.
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Yeah, pain is a fairly nebulous condition, it might be difficult. However, if someone is in pain when they walk, they are usually going to walk slowly and gingerly. If someone bounds out of their vehicle and runs into the 7-11 for a pack of smokes, they might be considered suspect.
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Per Lab Lover:

As might the guy I watched shoveling 3' of snow from in front of my parent's condo a few years back.
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Or just having a good day. Besides I can be pretty frisky for a few feet, sometimes.
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Lousy idea. For example, I have one because of severe arthritis. Yet I don't necessarily limp or have many outward signs of problems. Yet I have excrutiating pain that makes it hard to walk long distances. I have another friend that has severe breathing problems, but again, it doesn't necessarily show up to the casual observer. You are asking cops to be physicians, a VERY lousy idea.
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I think this is an interesting topic.
We ask the police to identify people who are driving while impaired and to do so, initially, without conducting any kind of tests. In fact, I don't think it would be very difficult to train police to identify people who MIGHT be abusing handicapped privileges and force an assessment of the individual by a neutral physician.
If as a society we could severely curtail the abuse of the handicap entitlement, this would serve to ensure handicap facilities are available for those who truly need them.
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You don't understand this either. We have the cops do all sorts of tests. With the exception of roadblocks (where to keep the judges happy you have to stop everyone) they have to have some reason to pull you over. You have to be driving eratically, weaving in and out, going too slow, etc. You are changing the parameters. The original suggestion was that you give them the authority to pull the tag. I would have less problems with your more recent suggestion, although the cops are busy enough as it is. I would also note that while they can pull you over for driving impaired, generally you need more than the cop's say so to convict.

Maybe. Although I will note that other than casinos, I don't think I have ever seen all of the handicapped spaces taken up.
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Yes, I originally took a literary shortcut when I said "pull the tag." Of course there must be due process. Police can convict citizens of nothing.

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I have not been able to find any kind of governmental statistics on the rate of abuse of handicap privileges. Anecdotal observations such as you and I have offered are virtually worthless. For example, I personally know two women who have obtained handicap placards through their father who is an MD and these women have no physical disabilities unless one considers narcissism and laziness to be disabilities.
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I assume everybody that isn't walking unusually slow is abusing the stickers. Sue me.
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Not a bad litmus test.
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On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:48:50 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Maybe he bought something from them and didn't like the customer service.
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