It is probably easy for them to get approval for the tags from the team doctor when they suffer injuries on the field / court.
It would be an interesting idea to give law enforcement the authority to pull the tags when they witness their use by people who are obviously capable of unimpeded movement.
City of Spokane, WA is pulling the privilege of unlimited _no pay_ parking in metered spots. They were losing millions to it.
Harry K
Per Lab Lover:
I'd call that non-feasible because pain cannot be objectively measured and I'd guess that a significant proportion of handicapped parking permits are issued because the user experiences pain while walking.
Yeah, pain is a fairly nebulous condition, it might be difficult. However, if someone is in pain when they walk, they are usually going to walk slowly and gingerly. If someone bounds out of their vehicle and runs into the 7-11 for a pack of smokes, they might be considered suspect.
Per Lab Lover:
As might the guy I watched shoveling 3' of snow from in front of my parent's condo a few years back.
I use it for commuting, too. It's got a nice interior (leather seats), sync radio, and keyless entry (and all that rot). Is it still a "work truck"?
I wouldn't have made it with 2WD on my Ranger. All 2Wd pickups suck in ice and snow. It's the nature of the beast.
Perhaps. I've always used the stock (sized) tires. I know studs will really make a car feel like it's on ice when the pavement is only wet.
You pretend it's a normal situation, though. Most cars are made for one-sigma. You will be buying unusual, well, just about everything.
;-)
Lousy idea. For example, I have one because of severe arthritis. Yet I don't necessarily limp or have many outward signs of problems. Yet I have excrutiating pain that makes it hard to walk long distances. I have another friend that has severe breathing problems, but again, it doesn't necessarily show up to the casual observer. You are asking cops to be physicians, a VERY lousy idea.
Or just having a good day. Besides I can be pretty frisky for a few feet, sometimes.
I think this is an interesting topic.
We ask the police to identify people who are driving while impaired and to do so, initially, without conducting any kind of tests. In fact, I don't think it would be very difficult to train police to identify people who MIGHT be abusing handicapped privileges and force an assessment of the individual by a neutral physician.
If as a society we could severely curtail the abuse of the handicap entitlement, this would serve to ensure handicap facilities are available for those who truly need them.
You don't understand this either. We have the cops do all sorts of tests. With the exception of roadblocks (where to keep the judges happy you have to stop everyone) they have to have some reason to pull you over. You have to be driving eratically, weaving in and out, going too slow, etc. You are changing the parameters. The original suggestion was that you give them the authority to pull the tag. I would have less problems with your more recent suggestion, although the cops are busy enough as it is. I would also note that while they can pull you over for driving impaired, generally you need more than the cop's say so to convict.
Maybe. Although I will note that other than casinos, I don't think I have ever seen all of the handicapped spaces taken up.
Yes, I originally took a literary shortcut when I said "pull the tag." Of course there must be due process. Police can convict citizens of nothing.
C above
I have not been able to find any kind of governmental statistics on the rate of abuse of handicap privileges. Anecdotal observations such as you and I have offered are virtually worthless. For example, I personally know two women who have obtained handicap placards through their father who is an MD and these women have no physical disabilities unless one considers narcissism and laziness to be disabilities.
I assume everybody that isn't walking unusually slow is abusing the stickers. Sue me.
Not a bad litmus test.
All this talk of LAB tests reminded me of the following story, too good not to post.
Your Duck is Dead--
A woman brought a very limp duck in to a veterinary surgeon. As she laid her pet on the table, the vet pulled out his stethoscope and listened to th e bird's chest.
After a moment or two, the vet shook his head and sadly said, "I'm sorry, y our duck, Cuddles, has passed away."
The distressed woman wailed, "Are you sure?" Yes, I am sure. Your duck is dead," replied the vet..
"How can you be so sure?" she protested. "I mean you haven't done any testi ng on him or anything. He might just be in a coma or something."
The vet rolled his eyes, turned around and left the room. He retu rned a few minutes later with a black Labrador Retriever. As the duck's own er looked on in amazement, the dog stood on his hind legs, put his front paws on the exa mination table and sniffed the duck from top to bottom. He then looked up a t the vet with sad eyes and shook his head.
The vet patted the dog on the head and took it out of the room. A few minut es later he returned with a cat. The cat jumped on the table and also delic ately sniffed the bird from head to foot. The cat sat back on its haunches, shook its head, meowed softly and strolled out of the room.
The vet looked at the woman and said, "I'm sorry, but as I said, this is mo st definitely, 100% certifiably, a dead duck."
The vet turned to his computer terminal, hit a few keys and produced a bi ll, which he handed to the woman.. The duck's owner, still in shock, too k the bill. "$150!" she cried, "$150 just to tell me my duck is dead!"
The vet shrugged, "I'm sorry. If you had just taken my word for it, the bil l would have been $20, but with the Lab Report and the Cat Scan, it's now $
150."
Groan....! :-)
It's an old one, but a very good one!
Per Harry K:
When I had my Suburban, I used to make a game out of seeing how far I could go in 2wd.
18" of new-fallen snow on unplowed roads was no problem - you just had to think of the front wheels more as rudders when steering.The only times I'd get stuck and need 4wd were when I did something bone-headed like come to a stop before trying to turn uphill in a rutted intersection.
The real value of 4wd to me was taking the pressure off when following one of those guys who seemed determined to get stuck. When he'd finally manage it, just come to a stop, drop it in 4wd, and slowly pull around...
Per snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz:
Something to do with the bell curve?
e bed they are very light on the rear end. At least the suburban has some weight back there. You are also grossly exaggerating the handling characte ristics. That you can't drive one like a sports car and are thereby disapp ointed only shows you don't understand the purpose for which they were buil t.
t are bought as, and treated like, play toys.
ill last me the rest of the time I have but will still always have a work t ruck to haul stuff a car, van or SUV can't. Even when I cut, the only time the truck moves is if it will be hauling something (trash, recycle, yard w aste, etc).
Yes if you do actually use it for hauling stuff. Commuting does not count as "work".
Harry K
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