I live in a rural farm area where there are a lot of big pickup trucks like
this: <http://sportscars2013.com/2013-dodge-ram-1500-pickup-truck/ and
many of them have "disabled" window-tags or plates because there are a lot
of old people around here driving them. My questions is: if you are so
cripped-up that you need a crip plate, then how can you climb up and down
into that thing?
Since this NG has a lot of old crips hanging around, I thought this would
be a good place to ask. Your not working so you have the time to answer.
I am not old by today's standard(just going on 74 this year. retired in
'96). I don't drive PU truck but I drive SUV. It is not easy to stoop
down to get in/out of a car but getting in/out of SUV is much easier.
This is the case at least for us. Wife's car is also smaller SUV than
mine. Obviously you are not old, are you?
No, I'm really interested in the answer. I'm a young 45 but would have
minor trouble climbing in and out of one of those monsters. Whenever I see
them being driven by a 65+ year old 350+Lbs breathless wobbler, I wonder
how they get in and out.
OTOH, maybe the crip-plates they have are just a scam.
Maybe with difficulty if they're average height - but if they're 350,
the extra room (including shoulder room) probably outweighs the
I think there's quite a bit of that going around. In Philadelphia (PA,
USA) the city politicians were getting handicapped tags at one time.
Dunno if anybody's remedied that, but it's an obvious move for somebody
with no sense of shame.
Also not everybody with a handicapped tag is obviously crippled. Some
people can walk normally, but experience pain with every step and the
more steps they take, the more it hurts - and beyond a certain number of
steps, they're not going to get much sleep that night.
And I'm also guessing that there are people with severe pulmonary and/or
cardiovascular limitations that restrict the distance they can walk.
Bottom line, though, I suspect there are more phony handicapped tags out
there than most people would like.
Reminds me of a friend of my Dad's. This was twenty
or so years ago, when Dad and Vic were both alive.
Anyhow, Vic relates the conversation as he was sitting
in his big Ford passenger car (maybe a Crown Vic) in
a handicap spot, with handicap tag on the miror:
Passerby: You're not handicapped!
Vic: You consider a wooden leg a handicap?
Passerby: Uh, well, yes.
Vic: I got two of them.
(Vic had crashed a plane in world war two, and
lost both legs below the knee.)
In fairness, I've seen enough people with tags
get out, and nimbly walk in and out of stores.
That's been my impression for many years. The VAST majority of people
I see getting in/out of vehicles with handicapped plates or placards
have no apparent trouble walking that I can see. Nor do I notice any
signs of pain or discomfort when they walk.
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
You should have been a doctor. Oh, you seem to be practicing medicine
I don't have a HC plate and if you watched me walk to the store you'd
think I was just another guy. I've had knee surgery, injections, and
eventually will have replacements. Even though every step brings pain,
you see fit to judge me otherwise. I hope you never need an HC plate,
but there would be some justice to it.
OK , I can see that . As Tony said , they can be easier to get in/out
compared to say a regular car . We see a lot of 4X4 trucks/SUVs around here
<N.central Arkansas , on the Ozark Plateau> but it seems the ones that are
lifted/modified/monster tired mostly belong to younger guys . And there's a
lot of handicap plates here as this area is a retirement destination .
4WD/AWD is almost a necessity around here , we couldn't get out of our
driveway in winter without it . And sometimes that ain't enough , my wife
slid on ice 3 1/2 weeks ago coming home in an ice storm and totalled her 4WD
SUV ... and she <and I , for that matter> learned to drive in snow country .
Waky Zaky a punk kid. I wish I was 45 again, back then I would often put
a compressor for a 5 ton AC unit on my shoulder then take it up my
24 foot ladder to a rooftop in order to swap out a burned up compressor.
A couple of years ago I was still working and I changed out a compressor
in a 7.5 ton rooftop condenser but I used a winch to slide it up my 24'
ladder. I still had to wrestle it in and out of the condensing unit but
was able to it. I can't even work on my own vehicle these days and it's
quite frustrating to have trouble with stairs or uneven ground. o_O
On Friday, January 31, 2014 11:03:27 PM UTC-8, Tony Hwang wrote:
> this: <http://sportscars2013.com/2013-dodge-ram-1500-pickup-truck/ and
Me and wife are 78. Back in 2005 I went shopping for a 'retirement' vehicl
e - criteria 'easy to get in and out'. Tried a van on a windy day. Ya got
ta be kidding!!.
Tried an SUV but my prejudice against those contraptions said no and the lo
usy gas mileage only confirmed it.
Tried Subaru but didn't see much improvement over a standard mid size car.
Looked at the Ford 500 - and bought it. sits up considerably higher than r
egular mid sized, basically turn around and sit down, no crawling down int
o a hole. Decent gas mileage. I'd still like one that sits up higher thou
gh. Still driving it at 60,000 miles - we don't do a lot of traveling.
For a good 'old age' car one is hard to find. Basically I want a 2x stripp
ed model with no frills that I wouldn't use anyhow. I had a slow day waitn
ing on a lube/oil change and checked with salesman for such a car. Not ava
ilable except by special order.
We're not your age but bought two vehicles last year. The back end of
my Ranger rusted out so there wasn't much choice but to replace it.
Used vehicles were just stupid expensive so I bought a new F150. I
like it a lot.
On the way out of the dealership, the sales manager mentioned that
they had just gotten a Mustang convertible in the same color. A few
days later my wife said "I want it", so... Not exactly a "sit
upright" car. Fun, though. ;-)
It really seems they are missing the market. Something on the order
of 60% of the new cars were bought by people over 55. This
demographic is the only one with the money.
On Saturday, February 1, 2014 5:12:49 PM UTC-8, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Creature "comforts" are heater, A/C, power windows and at least drivers seat, good radio. Those come standard on all vehicles any more, even the stripped ones. All the rest are just play toys that take your attention off driving.
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