OT -- avoid the flu shot?

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I was wonder what the percentages were for full, partial sun.

I suppose the common cold, a virus, is mostly responsible.

I've seen the posting before. I take vitamin c. I take vitamin d. A few years ago my hip was causing major problems. I attribute taking vitamin d along with other minerals making it 95% better.
I got my flu shot.
Greg
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NB: the web site describes itself as "a Christian owned and operated natural health care provider that specializes in Limbic Stress Assessment (LSA) to determine a client’s nutrient deficiencies, food sensitivities and toxicities"

This person is qualified as an osteopath (bonesetter) i.e. neither a GP physician nor an epidemiologist.
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:10:43 -0500, "Don Phillipson"

The doctor may be a nutcase, but Osteopathic doctors are far more than bone setters. Could you be thinking of orthopedic?
My wife's cardiologist is a DO. We trust him with her life and he has done good so far.
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On 12/11/2012 10:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Let's get the facts straight here. I happen to be a board certified Orthopedic Surgeon. I have an M.D. and spent 5 1/2 years in post medical school internship and residency training. I could not even sit for the American Board of Orthopedic Surgery's certification exam until I had several years of documented clinical experience, including documentation of operations performed, etc. My formal education trained me to be substantially more than just a "bone setter" and in my clinical practice I diagnosed and treated a wide spectrum of congenital, infectious, malignant, inflammatory, and degenerative diseases of the musculoskeletal system in addition to traumatic injuries. My training taught me to recognize when some of my patient's complained of symptoms that were caused by non-orthopedic problems and required treatment by other specialists for effective resolution. I don't know where anyone gets the idea that orthopedic doctors are merely "bone setters". As for nutcases, I've known many nut cases and there is no correlation between academic credentials and wrong-headed thinking.
As far as what you say about osteopaths, I strongly and completely support your comments with one caveat: prior to about 25-30 years ago, the formal training of osteopaths was substantially inferior to that of M.D.s. That has not been the case for many decades. Most osteopaths don't even specialize in the diseases of the musculo-skeletal system and the one's I've known are fully equivalent to M.D.s in every respect.
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Stormin Mormon wrote:

http://scientopia.org/blogs/whitecoatunderground/2009/12/30/damned-lies-and-idiots /
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Hey Norm, are you one of those religious nuts that lets their kids die rather let them have a blood transfusion?
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On 12/12/2012 1:48 AM, harryagain wrote:

He's one of those gullible types that falls for every type of liar, con artist, and swindler out there. It's characteristic of those who prefer to believe in magic over facts.
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He's spewing BS. Get the shot. Recent research has also shown that getting the shots reduces heart problems by 50% in older people. Most heart problems are caused by inflammation of various kinds and the flu shots, besides preventing the flu, also reduce coronary inflammation that you wouldn't even notice till the heart problem became acute.
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:26:03 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

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(edited for length. Read full article on the web.) http://www.pacifichealthcenter.com/blog/?tag=aluminum-in-flu-shots
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Wife and I had the Hong Kong flu in 1968. Really rough thing to have. Thought we were going to die. Have taken the flu shots ever since. She has NO immune system due to medicine she takes to prevent rejecting heart transplant. Has not have any problem taking the flu shots. WW
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I don't think the shot will work with NO immune system..
I was just thinking of the stomach virus I had in the mid 70's, that screwed me up for a couple years.
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"gregz" wrote in message

I don't think the shot will work with NO immune system..
I was just thinking of the stomach virus I had in the mid 70's, that screwed me up for a couple years.
Greg
Transplant 14 + years ago. WW
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:26:03 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

They want to scare people into getting it, because it brings in BIG MONEY. Hell, every pharmacy in my area is littered with signs saying "Flu shots available".
I got one of them once, back in the 1970s. I got very sick from it. I've never gotten one since. I generally get a cold or two each winter, and sometimes what they call the flu. I'm just getting over a stomach issue that lasted about 4 days and made me quite ill, but it's going away, and I'll live. Even if I could get the shot free, I would not take it again.
Then too, I have often wondered if those shots could contain some sort of drug that makes a person act in a certain way, for example, vote for a certain political party, or join some religion, or even buy certain products. I have never trusted the government and all of this is possible. For all I know, it could contain a substance that makes elderly people die sooner so the govt. dont have to pay as much social security.
All of this reminds me of the antidepressant drugs that doctors seem to hand out like candy these days, even for other illnesses such as migraine headaches, arthritis and other ailments. That crap most definately changes a persons mental state, and easily could be used to make people act in a specific way. I've been offerred that shit for both migraines and arthritis, and I flat out refuse to take it. I've told more than one doctor that I'll rather deal with the headaches or pain than the side effects of that garbage medication.
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There is a lot of overprescribing, and folks need to know what their meds will do in the way of dosing and side effects. Flu is a killer, in addition to being an economic problem (for those who care) in lost work days....I've taken care of lots of folks with pneumonia resulting from flu, generally elderly who get the worst of it. Worst flu epidemic I can remember was in 1970 when our hospital was full to capacity and had beds in the hallway and I was pregnant. Came close to miscarrying, which is another big hazard and not well known.
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