OT. 12 year old aces Mensa test.

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Dean Hoffman
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What a nerd! Probably has a Mac! ;)

Reply to
J Burns

Super nerdess? Future president?

Reply to
Tony Hwang

Probably reads books too. Who needs him.

Reply to
micky

Her.

And a very pretty 12 year old at that.

Reply to
Dan Espen

I like this quote from that article about her, ?She often thinks outside of the box,? Jim explains. ?She sees things with a different point of view, even when many adults might be scratching their heads.?

Reply to
Muggles

Likely home schooled, too. Modern government schools don't do much for creativity.

What does it say when proletariat parents can better educate kids than government approved teachers?

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Good point!

Reply to
Muggles

While it's true there may be a few bad teachers, the majority of the problem is bad parenting and a bad home life.

Reply to
Kenny

Not to mention the lack of discipline in the schools. Don't touch a kid either. even if they tell you to go F... yourself. .

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

Well, it opens up interesting questions. I'll admit that I don't know the answer to this, and not going to take the time to research it on the web. I suspect I'd not find an honest answer on the web, everyone has a bias in one direction or the other.

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Yup. If you interact with little kids you don't find any "thugs". They learn those bad habits from their parents and parents friends. Often the parents are thugs to their own kids and/or they act like thugs in front of their kids and provide a thug role-model for them. IMHO almost all kids start out as decent human beings with the capability of being at least a halfway decent member of society but then the parents screw them all up. Then the cycle repeats itself because it's not politically correct to say poor people who can't afford kids shouldn't be having kids.

Reply to
Ashton Crusher

Are you sure they aren't born thugs? ((sorry, I couldn't help myself))

Reply to
Muggles

"... she?s always been excellent at math, performing several years ahead of her age group in school,?

I suspect she goes to school like most other kids.

Reply to
Dan Espen

I think some are. Parental guidance is important, but it is not everything. There have been many nature/nurture studies and discussions, but I know what I've seen in real life.

Many of us have seen families with two or three kids that have the same upbringing, same chances for education, activities, whatever. One ends up a doctor, another a scientist, the third one is in jail for armed robbery and drug trafficing.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

...or, is it constantly thrown in the face of the 3rd, "Why can't you be more like your brother and sister?"

Reply to
bob_villa

I think people end up that way because of the choices they make.

Reply to
Muggles

Of course they do, but why do they make those choices?

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

BTDT in fifth grade with a crotchety old nun. After a few weeks I was in a different classroom.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

Per Muggles:

One kid has an IQ of 140, the other has an IQ of 85.

One winds up with a Phd in Oceanographics and a tenured position at a major university. The other winds up working in the card-processing room of an IT department.

Seen it firsthand and it's nothing to do with choices - any more than Itzak Pearlman's not being able to play NBA basketball.

People who tell others "You can do anything you put your mind to." have, IMHO, a limited view of life and the world in general.

There can also be a certain arrogance there: "I've got mine and the only reason you don't have yours is that you didn't do the right things."

True sometimes, patently false other times.

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