That's the great thing about Bush. He never is responsible. He sent kids
to die in a war that was based on false claims. Has he aplogized to the
families of the dead soldiers? Apologized to the nation? Taken one bit of
So don't expect to hear him take any responsibility here either. But he
sure as well will take the credit for running the investigation into what
went wrong. And guess what, his investigation will find that he didn't do
The FEMA's role is to help in exactly this type of situation. Why is it the
Mayors fault? He doesn't have the resources necessary to deliver water,
food and etc. in a disaster of this size. He doesn't command thousands of
troops, amphibious vehicles, helicopters. The police force was overwhelmed.
The feds have the materials, men and machinery, yet they didn't get involved
until 5+ days later.
Here's a great article on how the US helped the Neteherlands during their
levee break disaster:
It took the US 36 hours to get in there and start helping. And this was all
the way over there. You'd expect an even quicker response here.
It's obvious that FEMA doesn't work well. It needs an overhaul, plain and
FEMA should be run by someone with experience, not a former horse show
From this and other threads, it seems like one central issue is that FEMA cannot
legally come in until the locals ask it to - and it sounds like the mayor and
the governor did not ask FEMA to come in until fairly late in the game.... much
OTOH, the FEMA guy's remarks on TV made him sound really bad..... and I think
there is still a legitimate question of why federal government resources weren't
staged immediately - so they could be on the ground within hours of getting the
necessary formal requests.
OTOH, maybe the were staged.... but the story on the coming deployment of that
hospital ship didn't sound like it...
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:27:27 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
FEMA has nothing *to* stage, other than bureaucrats. Their job is to
facilitate reconstruction, not prevent destruction. The mayor and
governor blew it big time (*useless* drowned busses, allowing parties to
go on after the "mandatory" evacutation, etc.).
This is Turtle.
Pete You have your guns pointed in the wrong direction.
FEMA : Rebuilds house, rebuild city businesses , and just rebuild what is
damaged in the form of property.
Red Cross : sets up sheilter and feeds the people of a storm.
Federal Aide : Comes in and gets all the people out , Take control of the Law
breakers, and sets up a system of everybody can get in and out as the FEMA or
Red Cross wants to check on things that they need to see about the people and
their problem. they just get the people out of the city with troops and provide
law and order to the city.
FEMA does not have to be set to do anything real fast for they are just the
rebuilders of the city and they will wait a month or two to get the city back
where they can come look and adjust the cost of rebuilding the city. Right now
FEMA has very little to do right now but Federal Aide [ troops / law control
being set up ] is working now.
You might want to look at
You have only a tiny fraction of what FEMA does as well as the Red
Cross, Salvation Army, a myriad of church relief organizations, etc.,
etc., etc., ...
This is Turtle.
That would be a good ideal for you to do.
Red cross , Federal Aide, national guard , and salvation Army takes care of the
people in the first way to save their life and then FEMA comes in behind and
rebuilds the city. FEMA has a Team of Doctors and Nurses of 25 people and
nothing to speak of as to take care of a city the size of New Orleans. Now these
doctors are also still on call to the Federal aid program and can go back and
forth between the two Groups.
This is Turtle.
FEMA is not allowed into a state without the Governor Permission and up till
this week end they were not allowed in the State of louisiana by the Governor
refussing aide and told them she would control everything that they do and for
now she want $9 Million dollars and Stay out.
They are supposed to assist local authorities after they are called in
by those authorities. They cannot move until they are called in.
And, what the local authorities say in front of the cameras is not they
way they get called in.
All, repeat ALL, disaster planning requires local authorities to be
prepared to be on their own for at least three days. In this case, local
authorities did not make use of the resources they already had on hand,
including their own disaster plan.
Specifically regarding FEMA: They are like contractors. They show up
after they are called.
"National Guard"? Under Governor Blanco's control. She did not send them
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