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wrote:

You can plot population in the 3d world against warming and get the same result. Should we start killing brown people.
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List of the most intense hurricanes to hit the US - 1900 to 2000. Since 2000 there have been 9 cat 4 hurricanes and 5 cat 5's but not all have hit the US (some never made landfall anywhere) I don't see a correlation to global warming. More connection to el nino type cycles.
Question: If hurricanes were effected by global warming wouldn't the effect be less hurricanes, not more? Global warming models show melting of the polar caps and cooling of the oceans. Cooler oceans = less hurricanes... correct? There are also lists of numbers of hurricanes by decade and the highest numbers were in 1951 to 1960
Rank Hurricane Year Category (at landfall) Minimum Pressure (mb) Minimum Pressure (in) 1 Unnamed (FL Keys) 1935 5 892 26.35 2 Camille (MS, SE LA, VA) 1969 5 909 26.84 3 Andrew (SE FL, SE LA) 1992 5a 922 27.23 4 Unnamed (FL Keys, S TX) 1919 4 927 27.37 5 Unnamed (Lake Okeechobee FL) 1928 4 929 27.43 6 Donna (FL, Eastern U.S.) 1960 4 930 27.46 7 Unnamed (Galveston TX) 1900 4 931 27.49 7 Unnamed (Grand Isle LA) 1909 4 931 27.49 7 Unnamed (New Orleans LA) 1915 4 931 27.49 7 Carla (N & Cent. TX) 1961 4 931 27.49 11 Hugo (SC) 1989 4 934 27.58 12 Unnamed (Miami FL, MS, AL, Pensacola FL) 1926 4 935 27.61 13 Hazel (SC, NC) 1954 4b 938 27.70 14 Unnamed (SE FL, SE LA, MS) 1947 4 940 27.76 15 Unnamed (N TX) 1932 4 941 27.79 16 Gloria (Eastern U.S.) 1985 3bc 942 27.82 16 Opal (NW FL, AL) 1995 3c 942 27.82 18 Audrey (SW LA, N TX) 1957 4d 945 27.91 18 Unnamed (Galveston TX) 1915 4d 945 27.91 18 Celia (S TX) 1970 3 945 27.91 18 Allen (S TX) 1980 3 945 27.91 22 Unnamed (New England) 1938 3b 946 27.94 22 Frederic (AL, MS) 1979 3 946 27.94 24 Unnamed (NE U.S.) 1944 3b 947 27.97 24 Unnamed (SC, NC) 1906 3 947 27.97 26 Betsy (SE FL, SE LA) 1965 3 948 27.99 26 Unnamed (SE FL, NW FL) 1929 3 948 27.99 26 Unnamed (SE FL) 1933 3 948 27.99 26 Unnamed (S TX) 1916 3 948 27.99 26 Unnamed (MS, AL) 1916 3 948 27.99 31 Diane (NC) 1955 3 e 949 28.02 31 Unnamed (S TX) 1933 3 949 28.02 33 Beulah (S TX) 1967 3 950 28.05 33 Hilda (Central LA) 1964 3 950 28.05 33 Gracie (SC) 1959 3 950 28.05 33 Unnamed (Central TX) 1942 3 950 28.05 37 Unnamed (SE FL) 1945 3 951 28.08 37 Bret (S TX) 1999 3 951 28.08 39 Unnamed (Tampa Bay FL) 1921 3 952 28.11 39 Carmen (Central LA) 1974 3 952 28.11 41 Edna (New England) 1954 3 b 954 28.17 41 Unnamed (SE FL) 1949 3 954 28.17 41 Fran (NC) 1996 3 954 28.17 44 Eloise (NW FL) 1975 3 955 28.20 44 King (SE FL) 1950 3 955 28.20 44 Unnamed (Central LA) 1926 3 955 28.20 44 Unnamed (SW LA) 1918 3 955 28.20 44 Unnamed (SW FL) 1910 3 955 28.20 49 Unnamed (NC) 1933 3 957 28.26 49 Unnamed (FL Keys) 1909 3 957 28.26 51 Easy (NW FL) 1950 3 958 28.29 51 Unnamed (N TX) 1941 3 958 28.29 51 Unnamed (NW FL) 1917 3 958 28.29 51 Unnamed (N TX) 1909 3 958 28.29 51 Unnamed (MS, AL) 1906 3 958 28.29 56 Elena (MS, AL, NW FL) 1985 3 959 28.32 57 Carol (NE U.S.) 1954 3b 960 28.35 57 Ione (NC) 1955 3 960 28.35 57 Emily (NC) 1993 3 960 28.35 60 Alicia (N TX) 1983 3 962 28.41 60 Connie (NC, VA) 1955 3 962 28.41 60 Unnamed (SW FL, NE FL) 1944 3 962 28.41 60 Unnamed (Central LA) 1934 3 962 28.41 64 Unnamed (SW FL, NE FL) 1948 3 963 28.44 65 Unnamed (NW FL) 1936 3 964 28.47 Addendum (rank is independent of other events in group) 4 David (S of PR) 1979 4 924 27.29 7 Unnamed (San Felipe PR) 1928 4 931 27.49 14 Hugo (USVI, PR) 1989 4 940 27.76 33 Iniki (Kaua'i HI) 1992 Unknown 950 27.91 43 Dot (Kaua'i HI) 1959 Unknown 955 28.11 50 Donna (St. Thomas, PR) 1960 4 958 28.29 64 Iwa (Kaua'i HI) 1982 Unknown 964 28.47 65 Georges (USVI, PR) 1998 3 968 28.59
Notes a Reclassified as Category 5 in 2002 b Moving more than 30 miles an hour c Highest category justified by winds d Classified Cat. 4 because of estimated winds e Cape Fear, North Carolina, area only; was a Category 2 at final landfall
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Marcus Wrote:

LOL. Is this a joke? God has nothing to do with this. If you build a city in a swamp between two lakes a huge river next to an ocean soon or a later it will get wiped out. New Orleans has suffered through a few hurricanes that have wiped it out. They just keep building there. It has been through many plagues and flooding. It's in a bad location. The city of New Orleans was also wiped out by the fire of 1794. To blame this on God or global warming is rediculous. Everybody knows global warming is caused by cows flatulance. As soon as we put corks in the cows back ends the better off we'll all be. : )
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superflysmith wrote:

Don't blame the poor cows. Everyone knows that any Global Warming is caused by the hot air emanating from politicians.
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superflysmith wrote:

Untrue. God is smoting. But not because of global warming. He actually quite likes global warming. It's the decadance He dislikes. http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html

Oh sure, like anyone is going to believe that.
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If you believe in God, it's time for you to pray. He's probably asleep. Maybe, if you donate lots of money to Pat Robertson, Benny Hine, Robert Tilton etc. Their Gods may perform miracles?

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snipped-for-privacy@UNLISTED.com wrote:

Why? For the same reasons people move back around Mt. Vesuvius after an eruption kills many and chases others away. That volcano has blown about 35 times since the first eruption to be recorded in detail, the 79 AD one.
I think we humans like to take chances like that because it makes us feel "brave". It's the "Hey, watch this" syndrome.
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Jeff Wisnia wrote: ....

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So let's see--that's an average recurrence of ~50 year--just about that of Cat 3 or greater hurricanes, I think???
Any wonder why lessons are forgotten so easily?
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Duane Bozarth wrote:

If we get another 500 year storm next year, we will know we are in trouble.
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Norminn wrote:

Er...I mean this year :o)
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Duane Bozarth wrote:

Andrew and Katrina fell on almost the same date during the year. Difference from "A" to "K" is....10 more named storms?
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I note that Hurricane Charlie when it hit Port Charlotte in Florida,was a Cat 4 hurricane,Andrew a few years ago was a Cat 5,and Katrina was a Cat 4. That's THREE >Cat3 hurricanes in less that 10 years.

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snipped-for-privacy@UNLISTED.com wrote:

Yep. We should play it safe and not cross oceans to explore because it can kill ya'. Don't build in a valley because a flood might get you. Don't build on a mountain because a landslide might get you. Don't build in SF or LA because an earthquake might get you. I've got to move because I live on the water and the next hurricane might get me. I can't go back where I used to live because a sink hole or a tornado might get me. The first people that came over here had laws about taking care of orphans and the less fortunate, kind of a commie deal in today's thinking but it worked. You have to be a little crazy to risk getting eaten by bears or scalped in order to build a home where you want to live. They filled in a stinky swamp and built Chicago. And life would not be what it is today without the flavor added by a city like New Orleans. Someone knocked down a skyscraper in NYC, killed 3,000 people, but they are going to build another. Because they can. Funny thing about the site of Twin Towers is that the site didn't used to be solid ground. It was on the edge of New York Harbor. When they were building it, they found remains of a ship that had burned on the site about 1614. The captain of the ship, Adrian Block, didn't sit there and die. He had his guys build another so he could get back home. He brought back furs, which was the gold of the day and for a long time later. On his way back home, he discovered that Long Island is an island and discovered the Connecticut River, so some of my ancestors had a place to settle. I say, "Go for it!"
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Here in DC we're pretty safe from natural disasters, except I am sure they're sitting around in a tent in the desert right now, trying to figure out how to kill us with a dirty bomb, suicide attack, or God (Allah) only knows.
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Dirty bomb,hell;they plan to use a real nuke.
I suspect Iran will be the one to supply it,too.
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snipped-for-privacy@UNLISTED.com wrote:

useless babble trimmed

The sheer STUPIDITY of your comment boggles ones mind.
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snipped-for-privacy@UNLISTED.com wrote in

It originally was not below sea level,but after levees were built to block the seasonal floods,the land inside began to SINK,no longer being replenished from the silt carried by the yearly floods.The "delta" was created by(and maintained by) silt from the Mississippi River.
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Location is more critical than elevation. Consider the strategic military value of being the last town on the river that reaches the entire middle US. A little war around 1812 hinged on things like that.
Nawluhns is also the closest thing to the third-world in the US, in terms of civil engineering, compounded by a corrupt culture. Such character is not going to prudently invest in infrastructure to withstand such a test as Katrina.
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Corrupt,definitely;even their POLICE are looting.
During natural (or unnatural)disasters,looters should be shot on the spot.
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Jim Yanik writes:

No, you and I loot, police, ahem, "commandeer".

Not possible. The National Guard troops are not trusted with live ammunition.
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