Need your advice on a good inside automotive tire patch

[clare]

A lot easier on a dynamic balancer.

[Danny D.]

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:22:27 -0500:

You seem to have everything wrong, but I don't know where you get your ideas from.

I was never talking about putting the wrong *size* on the car or even different sizes on the same axle, or even on different axles.

If you inferred that, I never said (nor implied it).

[Danny D.]

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:24:13 -0500:

I never disputed the inherent value of dynamic balancing.

[Danny D.]

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:26:51 -0500:

Let's stop discussing this because there is a well known description which I pointed folks to, which clearly shows what aficionados call the thing in the US and in the UK.

In other countries, their typical customs and norms will prevail. Remember, I didn't bring this up.

Someone asked. I explained.

They asked for clarification. I provided a reliable reference.

They either accept the answer or they don't. There's nothing more for me to tell them.

[clare]

[Tony Hwang]

Because you don't know the anatomy of Subaru system yet.

Most likely causing damage.

When differential gets busted.

One hint Subaru system does not have power torque. Ever driven xDrive? That is BMW system. Try it once and experience power torque. Jeeps too. Ever do off-roading? Some times ignorance is even dangerous.

[clare]

What's the difference between a BMW and a Porcupine??

[clare]

It is a BMW whether it has 2 wheels or 4. Bimmer or Beemer are both just bastardizations of the same name. You want to think there is a difference, go right ahead., If a Boston Beaner says Bimmer it'll come out Beemer anyway.

[Tony Hwang]

I just shake my head. I thought Bimmer drivers are some intelligent people who understand basics of vehicle. When you mount tires you rotate tires on the wheel to minimize the use of balancing weight.

[clare]

Not so smart now, I see.

Better to pay somebody to do it right (particularly with safety related stuff like tires and brakes)

[clare]

Different brand tires of the same size, or tires with differing wear amounts amount to the same thing. On AWD cars, and cars with dynamic traction control, you ALWAYS replace tires 4 at a time.

[clare]

By "power torque" you mean "torque steer" And you are right!!

[Tony Hwang]

Only dealers my family deals with is Bimmer, Subaru, Acura. They do excellent jobs selling/trading/servicing. If they screw you even by a mistake, they know they will lose you to the other dealer at the other part of the city. All 3 we deal with are family owned.

[Ashton Crusher]

The last time I repaired a tire ( punch thru of a screw which I yanked out) I bought a kit with rubber plugs and rubber cement. Greased the hole with cement, put the plug on the inserter tool, shoved it thru form the outside and withdrew the tool. That repair and tire lasted another 20K miles.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Eggsacktaly!

[Ed Pawlowski]

Historically I've been bad about rotating tires but have done OK with the last couple of cars. It does pay to have them wear evenly though and now that I have AWD I'll be more vigilant.

When the original tires go I'll probably get Nokian WRG3 again. I rally liked them on my last car.

My first car was a '53 Mercury. Only bought one used or re-cap tire at a time as needed.

[clare]

With directional tires you just switch front to back - not a full rotate (and I've never done/liked full rotation on radial tires (or even the old bias belted tires)

I've never replaced tires one at a time - and untill the Ranger I'd never installed used tires. The alloy rims I bought for it (torque thrust style Eagle Alloys) came with a decent set of Coopers that I drove for a year, and I got a set of Hak R2 SUVs with one season of use for a good price so I put them on for this winter. Should last me for another 4 or 5 winters.

[rbowman]

Hard to get to either from Bayerische.

[Danny D.]

Tony Hwang wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:00:22 -0700:

I think we misunderstood each other.

I am a typical BMW owner who mounts and balances his own tires. I know all about the red and yellow dots on most new tires.

Here is how I mounted and balanced my tires to minimize weights:

1. I removed the old tires & all the old weights.
2. I washed the five rims & located the match mounting dot on the rims.
3. I located both the red and yellow dots on my new tire sidewalls.
4. I leveled all five of the empty clean weightless rims.
5. I placed them in order of worst to best, with worst being the spare.
6. I chose the two best new tires for the front (yellow/red being closest).
7. I mounted and balanced those two best tires to the two best rims.
8. I mounted and balanced the next-best tires to the next-best rims.
9. I mounted and balanced the worst tire & worst rim for the spare.
10. In each case, I paired the red dot with the valve stem for allow wheels.

I then took the vehicle out for a high-speed run. Had it vibrated, I would have then taken the vehicle in to a shop to ascertain if the vibration were due to:

a. Suspension components b. Steering components c. Alignment d. Wheels & tires

What exactly do you find wrong with my procedure?

[Danny D.]

clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:21:55 -0500:

Again you seem to have everything wrong?

Who said *anything* about different brand tires of any size?

Are you just making this stuff up?

You're the *only* one talking about different brand tires on the same vehicle. Nobody else would even *think* of doing that, except as a ghetto maneuver.