Typically sandbags and specialized hammers and drifts are used
This may help. Its not an uncommon problem..but it can be fairly expensive to fix "properly"
Simply change the state to whatever state/provence you live in.
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The kid can take it to school and get another one. Problem solved.
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Tony, I always knew you were a blow hard.
Christ>> My grandchild dropped the trumpet, denting the horn:
Yea, the motorcycle shop could even put some flame decals on the horn. ^_^
TDD
Then, the kid can eat beans and shove the trumpet. Strike a match.
. Christ> >>> My grandchild dropped the trumpet, denting the horn:
He should study the technique of this guy. ^_^
TDD
Toss it in the garbage and buy an identical one at a music store.
If you cant find a replacement, just wrap it with duct tape and tell the parents a drunken redneck in a rolled over pickup truck, stole it, and you had to beat the guy over the head with it to get it back.
Take or send the trumpet to a professional trumpet-repair place and only to a professional trumpet-repair place. Check with the band department at your local high-school to find out where they take or send their mangled trumpets. A way to work within your two-day time frame might be to flop down a couple of hundred bucks for a replacement instrument. Maybe you'll be able to fool the kid's mother. Best of luck to you and to your grandchild.
I googled for "trumpet bell repair" and got lots of hits.
Hi, If it's not an expensive one, just chuck it and get another. You can even buy new one for ~100.00, made in China or India. But then El Cheapo instrument can hinder learning process. They are very stuffy and tonal quality is minimal.
I once asked Dizzy Gillespie if he wanted me, a metalworker, to fix his bent horn. He said, "no, I've gotten used to it."
David
Just an opinion, but that wasn't just dropped - it either fell from a great height or was thrown with some vigor.
She still has to be told - it'll go easier on both you and the kid if he just fesses up to it now, versus if she finds out after the fact.
If this trumpet is School Property, they have to be told too - because when the repair shop sees the School Property tag they are going to get a call anyway.
And unless you're sending it back to the OEM Factory for repairs, they probably have their own repair connections. Los Angeles Unified runs their own complete instrument repair shops.
Problem is they need to anneal the metal with a torch flame or a stint in a heat-treat oven to soften it up first, and that means the whole thing needs to be stripped of the old lacquer, buffed out, and clear coated again when it's all done. You can't just hammer it back in shape, the metal will stretch and distort.
The best way would be to unsolder the bell, anneal it, stick it back on the spinning lathe on the original form, and gently spin it back into shape - possibly with a torch shrinking or two, where they heat it up then hit it with a wet cloth to suck in the stretch. That's going to be either the original trumpet maker's factory or someone who has an exact duplicate of the bell form.
Then they solder it back onto the rest of the trumpet, and do the usual strip buff and lacquer on the whole instrument.
Then again, if this is a $99 (No Name) Indonesia Special you toss it out - or give it to the instrument repair guys for spare parts.
Then help the kid into a good Conn or Selmer. They sound a whole lot better, and are far more easily repairable when stuff like this happens again. And it will.
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That's easily fixable, and an experienced brass musical instrument technician sees a lot of them like that.
Whether it's cost effective depends on the horn.
I'd guess it will cost $200 to $400 to repair and look like new.
You can get a Chinese import for $150 and they play reasonably well.
A Bach Stradivarius costs $2500 and up.
This is one repair that you can't do yourself. Well, you could, but you're going to mess up the first 50 or so learning.
Fill it with gun powder, add a long fuse. Place it outdoors far from any buildings, light the fuse, and run like hell. When it blows, the dent will be gone. Of course the whole trumpet may be gone too, but that's the risk you take.
Truth be told, I think Grumpy Grampa became tired of listening to the kid attempt to play the trumpet, wrestled it out of the kids hands and threw it out the window.
Just to update - I haven't done anything on this (nobody asked for it yet) ... but I will update when there is action.
I don't know what affluent, well-funded school district you live in but most schools don't just give out musical instruments to students.
If your kid wants to play an instrument, you lease it for the school year through a company that's contracted by the school, or you go out and buy one from a music store or off craigslist.
Likely, this trumpet is OWNED by the kid's parents. There is no "give it back and they'll give you a new one."
This is a GREAT time to teach the kid a lesson about personal responsibility. Send the trumpet home with him and make him own up to damaging it. Helping him hide this from his parents is sending him the wrong message and teaching him bad behavior.
Luckily trumpets are cheap. They ought to be able to find a good used one at a music store or on craigslist, or get this one fixed.
I'm sure a good music store could get the trumpet fixed good as new for not much $$$.
Whatever it costs, make the kid work it off.
Whaever you do QUIT HELPING HIM HIDE IT, and the rest of you quit encouraging him to help this kid LIE to his parents.
You really should just encase yourself and your entire extended family in cement. The crises never end with you.
Then again you'd have 1000 questions about what kind of cement to use, how to build the forms, yada yada yada.
Shame on you for helping this kid LIE to his parents, your own children!
snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Indeed. It looks like this dweeb recently discovered UseNet and digital photography and he wants everyone to know about it. I have him in my KF, so I don't usually see his crap. Has he posted a hundred photos of the trumpet yet?
You should buy a roller. It rolls out the dents
Who keeps looking for old posts 2013 to reply to?????
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