"Perhaps by 2030 we'll be able to lawfully drive as fast as we should have
been allowed to drive back in 1990. But don't count on it. There's too much
revenue at stake."
"If it was "safe" and "reasonable" for a 1958 Chevy with drum brakes and
bias-plys [and independent suspension, non-independent rear axle, anti-sway
bars, etc.) to operate at 70, what of a 2013 Chevy with high-performance
four-wheel disc brakes and 17-inch alloy wheels shod with modern radials
designed for safe travel at continuous speeds in excess of 130 MPH? There
isn't a new (or recent vintage) car that isn't inherently safer (more
controllable, less likely to crash) at 90 MPH than any car of 1958 -- or
1968 (or 1978) -- was at 70. Yet speed limits are, for the most part, just
about back to where they were circa 1970."
Regardless how good the cars are made, I think the weak point is
people's reflexes and reaction times. The only fallacy to this is
that I have also seen speed limits change back and forth for given
stretches of roads. FWIW, many years ago I was told out in west
Texas, people used to drive at 90+ mph minimum tho the speed limit was
less. This was where it was desert and straight boring roads.
Re rflexes/reaction time. Those went out the window when it became
standard to tailgate. 90% of the cars I see in moderate to dense
traffic are way to close. Just eyeball the next clump of cars you
Re 90+ Back then, just as today, such claims are 90% BS I spent many
the 60/70s in Central Tex (San Angelo/San Antonio) Traffic on those
straight streches were the usual 'posted plus 10%' which is common in
I live on a major 2 lane hiway and edveryone says "drive 65 and you'll
get run over (posted is 60). Odd, I hit that highway for a 50mile
trip, set my speedo at 64/65 and will be passed at most by two
vehicles and will pass maybe 3 in that 50 miles.
Try driving 4-5 MPH over the limit on many highways and you'll be holding
up traffic. Most 65 MPH highways I drive on run at 75 and higher.
On one major 65 MPH interstate that I drive on a lot, I set the cruise to
74 and drive right past the troopers in the medium. I gave up slowing down
when I see them many years ago because they obviously allow 74. I typically
drive in the left lane, moving to the right only when someone approaches
from the rear at a higher speed. I don't see the sense in moving
left-right-left all the time when driving 74 will mean that I will be
passing a lot of - but certainly not all - cars.
On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:26:47 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
I did the same on I-71 going to Austin and back....set my cruise to 74
and drove by state troopers with no problem. I usually stayed in the
right lane unless I needed to pass. Of course there are some who
pass me up.
Yup. I do 3k mile road trip at least once a year. See it all the
time in the left lane. I stay in the right lane to avoid the tailgate
crowd. Usually tucked about 2-300' behind a steady going semi doing
5-10 over. Nice that trucks use cruise now.
Haven't driven in Texas for years, but the Edens x-way (I-94) was the
fastest local road I drove, with big groups at 85 being pretty common.
Limit is 55.
The one that always took the prize was I-75 right through downtown
Atlanta in the daytime. Limit 55. I've been in groups doing 90-95
and we were getting passed. Never could figure that out.
Last couple years has been real close to 5-10 over.
And lots more mars lights.
Funny, you remind me of when I drove to Florida from Texas. I too
got into a group of cars and one 18 wheeler and we drove around 75 to
80mph (in the early 1980s). We all slowed down when the truck slowed
down for "good" reason and sped up when he did too. It worked out
I don't see a problem with 85 or even 95 under the right conditions.
Daylight, dry, relatively straight road with easy curves, good tires
Some drivers though, do stupid things. Just last week I was doing 95
and was about to pass a slower (about 95) car and he changed lanes
with no signal. I just went around him, but he would have made it
safer with a blink of the turn signal so I knew where he would be when
I got to him.
I cannot cite, but I read somewhere that above a certain speed
the consequences of loss of control increase all out of
proportion to the speed diff.
Half my family lives in Germany.
Their highways and general level of driver education are so far
above ours technically that there's almost no comparison and even
with Porches doing 150+ mixing it up with tandem tractor-trailers
pulling out to pass at 45 they *claim* a lower freeway fatality
rate than the US'.
But I lay virtually all of that to driver training and
infrastructure because when they do have a pileup, it tends to be
horrendous. Newscasts tend tb in the vein of "Between 7 and 10
people were killed, the exact number pending an inventory of body
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