My bathtub spigot is leaking. It takes Moen 1224 cartidges. I have
replaced these cartridges before and have the special tool that removes
the retaining nut buried deep inside. The problem is I can't get the
cartridge out. I don't want to yank and pull too hard lest I break
something. What's the trick?
Also I have a Moen Monticello kitchen faucet. It doesn't leak, but it
has a problem with how the sprayer works. When using the sprayer with
hot water only, after I let go of the sprayer handle the water coming
out of the spigot is reduced in flow. If I move the hot handle back
and forth a quarter turn or so it returns to full flow. This doesn't
happen with the cold side.
I tried to pull the cartridge out to see if something is stuck in there
but that sucker won't pull out either. Yes, I removed the outer
retaining ring. I don't think there is an inner one though.
I am on city water.
That sounds like a good suggestion. Hopefully it will work for the OP.
I have had the same problem as the OP with the cartridges not coming out on
a single handle Moen Posi-Temp shower fixture a couple of times. Huge mess,
ended up breaking the cartridge and having to dig pieces out etc. And, just
like the OP, I had to so-called special tool that is supposed to work, but
in the kitchen with no problem. The first time I removed one from the
shower, it was easy. When I had trouble 5 years later, I pulled so hard
I was afraid I'd break something behind the wall.
I noticed a cross hole through the stem. I put a large nail through it
and pried against the rim of the housing with a big, square-shanked
screwdriver. Easy! If I'd had to pry hard, I would have protected the
rim with wood.
The reason I had trouble in 5 years, and it was so hard to pull, was
deposits in the housing that I hadn't noticed with my finger the first
time. A chain-saw file removed them, and I used plumber's grease.
Besides protecting the o-rings during installation, I wonder if
plumber's grease might prevent deposits.
I knew the principle, and online I found that an 8-32 screw works for a
The 8-32 screw didn't work. The original screw had a wider pitch so
the fine thread wouldn't grab. I got some coarser #8 screws to try,
but first I used my needle-nose vise grips and locked onto the recessed
stem and pulled with all my might. It finally broke loose and let go!
This one says a Moen 1224B is used in the same faucets, but it's
designed for a self-tapping screw. Maybe the self-tapping screw cuts
threads with a different pitch.
When my 1220 was stuck so bad that I couldn't turn it with the Moen
plastic adapter, I was disappointed with Moen's online documentation.
I did my bathtub and recall using vise grip pliers and banging to the
point that I might cause damage. I did get the job done but when my
stall shower needed a new cartridge, maybe 35 years old, I had another
plumbing job and brought in a plumber and included this one. He had a
special puller, maybe like a gear puller. He said it was a chore.
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