I hope so, that is the way the system is designed to work. Your tax is
based on the value, you increase the value you increase the tax. If your
tax did not go up, everyone else's tax will go up to make up the difference.
Around here they do check from time to time for un-permitted
improvements. Not often, but it does happen. It can result in back taxes
with penalty, and they can require that the "improvements" be removed. Most
often this happens at the time of sale, but it can happen at other times,
but that is rare.
I might add that when you go to sell your home, you WANT the assessed
value high, as that is often used by perspective buyers to help them
determine what they are willing to pay.
Building permits do two things. They do offer some protection of the
homeowner in that if the code is followed, it should be safe construction.
It has nothing to do whtthe reputation of the contractor though.
They also generate income. At times they take your money for the permit but
no one ever inspects anything. If major changes are made, your assessment
will be increased. This ia actually fair. If your neighbor adds a $100,00
addition, do you want to pay the same taxes as he does?
Codes also require certain operations be done by trained and qualified
personnel. We allknow that people do things anyway, but that is not always
a good thing. I've been in houses, that used lamp cord to wire recepticals
in a basement that was going to be finished as a rec room.
In a perfect world, we'd not need permits and codes, but too many morons do
dangerous things with gas and electric.
I once smelt gas in a house and it came from a gas hob that had been connected
to the gas supply by a garden hose and 2 jubille clips.
However I have also seen professionals make mistakes. Once from an electrician
supplied by the electric company who reversed the live (I think that Americans
call it hot) and the neutral to the consumer board (Fuse unit) and registered
gas installers who fail to carry out the correct pressure testing of a new gas
installation, I had to point out to him that he had failed to do it and his
attitude towards me was that of a troublemaker.
That is why I recently advised somebody to seek the services of "an
expert -- or, failing that, a professional."
On 03/01/04 04:39 am JhnWil875 put fingers to keyboard and launched the
following message into cyberspace:
township, unless we're discussing an increase to the number of dwellings on
the same property, in which case one could argue that there's an increase
in township-provided services. Otherwise, there're no additional financial
burdens on the community after the improvement than there were before.
One could argue that sewage and water usage increase when a new wing is
added to a home, but that is best handled by sewage and water fees, just
like any other utility fee.
The licensing fees (plus some local taxes, fines, etc.) is applied to pay
for the inspections and enforcing the code, which benefits the community
(including the homeowner and future residents of the property).
On the other hand, shoddy workmanship can cost the township money if it
results in fires or injuries that require township resources to control
(fire-department, police, EMT/rescue services, etc.)
All that goes out the window if paying off the inspector is considered part
of the process. :-( (please pardon my Monday-morning cynicism.)
No, but the total cost of local services has to be allocated to all the
property. If properties other than yours are undervalued, then you end up
paying a bigger part of the whole, which means your taxes are higher,
because theirs are lower. That is unless you believe in things like
perpetual motion machines.
In the long run yes, or more to the point if everyone else's property is
revalued to 50% of what it should be and mine remains at what it should be,
just how long do you believe the agencies receiving tax funding based on
those taxes will wait until they demand more money.
Trust me on this. I just retired from 30 years of working in the local
You should be old enough to know that making blanket statements is not a
good ideal also. My taxes went down a few years ago. stayed the same for
three more. My not happen often, but it does. One reason for the decrease
was re-evaluation. Some previous undervalued properties were brought in
line making the contribution more equitable.
That is true. All they do here is make sure that you have done the work
safely and to code (and the building department has lots of handouts on
what to do and also gives advice freely to the homeowner who does their
My city says that their rule of thumb is that if you are doing anything
that involves electrical or plumbing systems or changing the structure
of the house, then you should probably check to see if you need a
permit. But this is a relatively affluent community compared to many
parts of the country. Nevertheless, people do things like put in new
showers in without making sure that the sides are watertight and then
the wall disintegrates or makes damp wood that attracts termites, etc.
-- which is why they have the regs in the first place.
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa
I've just had several significant repairs done to my home that required
inspections. In all cases, new roof, furnace, water heaters, structural
changes, and plumbing repairs, the inspectors failed to cite significant
flaws until I called and had them return to do what they were paid to
do. I was then easily able to force the contractors to properly remedy
their mistakes. I feel that building inspection serves several purposes:
1. It provides assessors with an easy way to know which homes to
increases assessments on.
2. It provides a revenue stream in the form of permit fees (a tax).
3. It provides employment for inspectors who otherwise are unemployable.
Anthony Straight wrote:
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