Finally, someone caught-on to the OPs thoughts! And...the last sentence could be, " I don't know what the solution is, but the problem is effecting everyone of US, and about to get far worse."
Is that similar light to incandescent bulbs? It'd rather have WHITE light than that yellow.
I don't care what anyone else says, I still like to use incandescent bulbs for certain locations. Like in the bathroom, the kitchen, or the laundry room, all locations where the light is often used only for a short period, and when I want it on, I want it on now. I also want the color of the light.
Same with the fixture near my chair in the living room; when I turn that on, I want it to come on fully right away.
The other location is in my welding rod storage oven, in which a 60 watt incandescent bulb keeps it at the proper temperature for storing certain rods.
If people want to use CFL bulbs, and I do in some locations, that is great, but those of us who still have a use for incandescent bulbs should be able to buy them whenever we feel we have the need. I would rather not have to stockpile 50 years' worth of bulbs, but if it comes down to it, I'll have to do just that. Bastards.
Jon
Places where it gets too cold or hot for CFLs to work right.
Some switches (like dimmers and remotes) depend on current through the bulb, and don't work right with CFLs.
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I use a fluorscent fixture (4-foot T8, not CFL) behind my chair. Good white light (you can get "yellow" tubes too) and it doesn't take too long to light.
BTW, the only CFLs I've seen that take longer than a second to come on are a couple of outdoor floodlights.
Another use for incandescents. My grandmother used them in her greenhouse for that reason (heat).
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Yes, it is close to soft white incandescent.
You'll like the 2700. It is whiter than the incandescent. After years on avoiding sickly green CFL, we went to a Friendly's restaurant and it looked very bright in there. They replaced all the bulbs with the newer CFLs. I went and bought some a few days later.
2700K CFLs mostly approximate incandescents of one sort or another, though some 2700K CFLs (mostly older types and higher wattages) are a bit pinkish in comparison to incandescents that they "best approximate".
For a whiter light, which I prefer, I like 3500K CFLs. 3500K is a "whiter warm white", similar to higher color temp. halogen, projector, and photoflood incandescents.
Both Lowes and Home Depot have a wide enough range of wattages of 3500K spiral CFLs.
Please keep in mind that the whiter 3500K may have a bit of "dreary gray effect" in dimmer home lighting situations such as dimmish basement and hallway lighting.
For the next step to "truly white", that is 4100 K. My favorite source of those is many hardware stores carrying the "Westpointe" line by the "True Value" hardware store supplier. Even though the color is like that of "average direct sunlight", it easily gets "dreary grayish" unless illumination level is "nice-and-bright" like that of offices, classrooms and more-brightly-illuminated retail stores.
Even higher color temperature such as 5500K (Home Depot) or 6500K (Lowes or Target) is good in dimmer situations when "dreary gray" but "adequate but dimmish" illumination is OK, such as many places outdoors at night, or "nightlighting" of hallways, stairways and basements. Such higher-K icy-cold-slightly-bluish white has a spectrum favorable to making use of "night vision".
The upcoming "incandescent ban" has a set of loopholes that the Mississippi River can be rerouted through, "in my words".
(Exempts nearly all automotive and most other miniature types as well as most photographic/projection incandescents, including most of the minority of such that fails to be exempted on basis of bulb style, design voltage, or design light output outside the range of 310-2600 lumens)
(That exemption includes nearly all automotive incandescents, incandescent flashlight bulbs, etc. even in the unlikely event no other exemptions apply)
This house is 2-1/2 years old. The only bulb, of 50, that has been changed are is the ceiling fan on the back porch, where heat and vibration team up. I have no use for CFLs and will never install them, at least until I have no choice. I will have ~300-400 by the time the ban goes into effect. Since I've used one in two years, I should be set for a while.
Then you're wasting far more electricity than I am, even with your "green" bulbs.
Yep, other than the "cold temperature" part, that's all I have. All of my bulbs are visible (chandeliers, sconces, ceiling fans), thus "decorative". CFLs are ugly. None, except the outside lights burn more than an hour or so a day (kitchen, bathroom) and most are five to ten minutes at a crack. CFLs make *no* sense.
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I'd have agreed with you a few years ago. Now the CFLs can be as good or better than the incans and I'm saving $$$ to boot. I actually prefer the whiter light from the CFL bulbs we now have.
We had can lighting in the kitchen in our previous house and I much preferred halogen spots; very bright white. ALl of our bulbs now are unfrosted and visible, so no halogens. CFLs would be incredibly ugly. The only place I've used a CFL, grudgingly, was in a fan over the stairs where it was a RPITA to change and vibration kept killing incandescents. In the Winter it would take five minutes to come up to full brightness. That light was *rarely* on five minutes (only used to light the stairs).
I dropped a CFL a couple of weeks ago. Cleanup would have been much easier had it been an incandescent.
Cindy Hamilton
EPA says all one has to do is sweep it up and dump it into a zip-seal plastic bag and then dump it in the trash. Maybe go over the breakage site with tape to get up smaller pieces, and put the tape in the same sealed bag. If local laws say it can't go in the trash, then contact your local sanitation department or
Yes, I am that old, but DAMHIKT.
AFAIK they are still available and sometimes used on those strings of light bulbs used on construction sites, for the same anti theft reason.
Here's one:
Many, many years ago, I worked for an electrical supply company and shipped out many a left handed light string sockets and bulbs to construction companies. The bulbs were a lot of fun to slip into someone's supply of light bulbs. It's a great gag to pull on friends and family. The sheer frustration they suffer when trying to replace a burned out bulb is quite entertaining. 8-)
TDD
Yeah, but it's one of those gags you might have to wait a long time to see or hear about, unless you volunteer to run out and get them a bulb when one burns out and hand it to them to replace.
Am I the only guy who routinely rubs the base of a bulb I'm about to screw or bayonet into a socket on both sides of my nose to coat it with nasal sebum so it wont "freeze" into the socket?
"Dear, can you do something about this squeaking drawer?" "Sure Baby!" "Oh my God! What are you doing!"..........
Hey homes, jew must have a big nose, man.
TDD
Because air is free!
Yes, I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood. I've heard a lot of Jew jokes, and most of them told by the Jewish boys I played with. They told Christian jokes, too.
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