According to Goedjn :
I stuck one of those diverters on my dryer, with strict instructions to the SO to KEEP THE ROOM DOOR OPEN! when in use.
Later that very day, she called me in a panic that the wallpaper was falling off the walls. She reluctantly admitted she had closed the door.
She called back an hour later, all happy again, because once she turned the thing off, the wallpaper got tacky enough to stick back on again...
I have an electric dryer and I've been doing this for about 18 years. Ever since I saw that little box for sale in the hardware store.
It has a louver that I move twice a year. The indoor outlet has a
4x4" piece of window screen that acts as a lint filter. It is set in a plastic frame that slides out for cleaning. I don't have to clean it often because most of the lint gets caught in the dryer's own lint fitler, which is about 3 or 4 times as big. The outdoor setting has no filter, just connects to whatever it was connected to before. You have to cut the pipe or hose that you're using now.I set it to indoors the firs time I do my laundry after I've turned the furnace on, or even earlier since the furnace costs moneyh and this doesn't. I set it back the other way the first time I do the laundry and it seems too hot inside my house.
Even if you don't feel a breeze thought the laundry room door, there is something called dynamic equilibrium. It describes the way humidity (and everything else) is spread throughout the house the same way a drop of food coloring in a gallon of water will eventually color the whole gallon, even if the water is still.
I just saw them for sale at HD earlier this year, though not the same design as mine,
I'm sure there are several designs, though all of them more or less the same.
Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also.
Actually, that's diffusion. Dynamic equilibrium is what keeps the water level in a pool constant when the goes-inta equals the goes-outa.
Was your answer above ($3K technology) responding to my musings about the economics of heat recovery from gym shower room waste water or to recovering heat drom clothes/towel dryers?
Thanks for the links, quite interesting.
Jeff
That is essentially the main point.
Damp, dusty lukewarm air is a commodity that you really don't want inside your house. That's why it is traditionally vented outside the house. Some people have tried heat recovery products, but think about it... How many hours does your dryer operate each week. Probably not too many.
If it is a gas dryer, venting it indoors could kill you. The products of combustion are CO (Carbon Monoxide) and CO2 (Carbon Dioxide). The first is a deadly poison caused by inefficient combustion (not enough Oxygen). Carbon Dioxide can also kill you if there are large quantities. Although not a poisonous gas, people have died because their was too much CO2 in the house, displacing the Oxygen which is essential to respiration. (See the Movie Apollo 13 for more info).
Beachcomber
Pop,
I'm Sorry, I should have given the entire name. International Mechanical Code section of the International RESIDENTIAL building Code. The fact that you have found installations that violate current code is not surprising. The code is constantly changing, getting better. The code is there to PROTECT people and property. Also, people constantly violate codes, the same as people often commit crimes. Sometimes people get away with it. That dos not make it a good idea. Please note that not all inspectors are equal to the task.
Sometimes someone does something that damages property or hurts people that is not covered by code. The code bodies then look at updating code to cover new problems. The changes are not instant, but they do come. The international codes cover both residential and commercial installations. Obviously you did not do enough research. Buy a full copy of each book you wish to quote like I did. Your passages are taken out of context. I did not quote all passages and sections, because my copy is printed and I did not want to type that much.
Go read the whole thing. I quoted you chapter & verse, but I guess you just like to argue.
Stretch
It is okay to vent your dryer in house there are special lint filters to attach . This was tried years ago as an method to save vented heat.
Rey
I bought a used house in MA about 25 years ago. Electric dryer vented inside, no vent in bathroom or over stove.
Window frames and inside corners: loads of mildew. Windows sweated and soaked the sills in midwinter. Far too much moisture (and who knows what else inside)
I replaced the range hood with one that vented outside, did the same for the dryer, and squeegeed the tub walls after every shower to keep moisture out of the air.. No more dripping windows, no more mold. When it was really cold out, I'd go as far as to pre-dry myself with a washcloth after showering and wring the water out into the drain instead of putting it all in a towel, and into the air.
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No. It's been a while since I checked this. IIRC, before the spin, a 1 pound towel might weigh 3 pounds...
OK.
10 WO=.0025'outdoor humidity ratio 20 TR=70'room temp (F) 30 CFM=.7*2400*8/60'airflow through house (cfm) 40 W=5'pounds of water per load 50 FOR H=1 TO 4 STEP 1'drying time (hours) 60 P=W/H'water vapor supply rate (lb/h) 70 WI=WO+P/(60*CFM*.075)'indoor humidity ratio 80 PA=29.921/(1+.62198/WI)'vapor pressure of room air ("Hg) 90 PS=EXP(17.863-9621/(460+TR))'vapor pressure at Tr and 100% RH ("Hg) 100 RH=100*PA/PS'relative humidity in house (%) 110 PRINT H,P,RH 120 NEXT HTime (H) lb/h RH (%)
1 5 47.386 2 2.5 31.75781 3 1.666667 26.5209 4 1.25 23.89726Nick
Easy: Close the drain, leave the water in the tub until it cools.
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Allergic to the clothes they are wearing? I'm guessing that would have come out the first time they put it on.
One DOE site lists "Remaining Moisture Content" standards after spins...
warm spin cold spin
15 min 4 min 15 min 4 min 100 Gs ~45% ... 50% ... 500 Gs 24% ... 30%So a 12 lb load might weigh 18 after a low speed spin...
Nick
I've taken a piece of leftover rigid foam insulation and cut it to fit into the dryer vent. I leave it covering in the vent whenever I'm not using the dryer, loosely reattaching the connector hose from the dryer. I've left a note for all on the dryer to be sure to remove it whenever using the dryer. It is an extra step, but it keeps the draft out. One other thing I have to do during the winter - lint gets trapped in the flap outside so that it doesn't close completely. That allows a draft into the vent, thus into the house. I occasionally have to stick my hand through the vent and, with a toothpick, clean off the lint to allow me to shut the flap.
Yipes! Now I see why I scored zero on the following "one question" IQ test....
****************************There is a mute who wants to buy a toothbrush. By imitating the action of brushing one's teeth, he successfully expresses himself to the shopkeeper and the purchase is done.
Now, if there is a blind man who wishes to buy a pair of sunglasses, how should he express himself to the shopkeeper? Think about it first before scrolling down for the answer...
He opens his mouth and says. "I would like to buy a pair of sunglasses."
*************************Jeff
Oops, I think I got confused.
During my research for that posting, I did run across several articles where they were talking about heat recovery from waste hot water. This is apparently fairly common, but, I don't think the references I saw were for installations on the order of a "locker room shower".
At least at the higher end, waste water heat recovery can be quite critical in things like power plant cooling streams (so you don't boil the fish).
We routinely vent our electric dryer into the house when it's cool and the humidity is low. It runs through a plastic box ($10 @ HD) half-filled with water to trap the lint
Dear James and all
In any case, using the dryer is not frugal living! Did you know that hydroelectricity is produced by burning coal? If you want to heat your house with electricity, do it by baking cookies!
Ammo
And I suppose you think a coal fired power generation facility uses water to generate the electricty...
hy·dro·e·lec·tric ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hdr--lktrk) adj. Generating electricity by conversion of the energy of running water. Of, relating to, or using electricity so generated.
DJ
Yeah, but I bet those rivers are running on burning coal. ;)
Nonsense! The byproducts of proper gas combustion is CO2 and water vapor. CO is not an issue unless something is wrong with the dryer.
Bill Ranck Blacksburg, Va.
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