Some campers and RV have a LP detector near the
floor. But NG detector in a home? Not heard of
When I did HVAC, I used to have a gas beeper for
use on the job, but that's not the typical HO
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Given that propane is heavier than air, having a *small* propane leak in a house with a basement or below grade crawl space is an explosion waiting to happen.
A *small* propane leak is probably less dangerous in an above grade slab house.
Given that natural gas is lighter than air, a *small* natural gas leak seems far less dangerous.
No "safe amount" of any explosive gas can be detected
by human nose. Our noses have not been trained to
discriminate between safe and unsafe odours. This is
why gas companies ask people to notify them if they
ever smell gas.
Natural gas has no detectable odor at all -- it's only the mercaptan
oderant added that can be detected by the nose. It's so strong simply
so that a tiny amount is detectable by almost everybody (albeit I can
often not notice the trace amounts spoken of above when some others
claim it smells strongly of it to them; my sniffer ain't so hot as some
The measurement devices used by the gas co aren't "smelling", they're
using active sensing to detect the actual methane/propane/whatever...
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:41:00 -0500, Stormin Mormon
Getting more common - Co detectors are now MANDATORY in any living
space in Ontario, joining smoke detectors.
Many Co detectors are combination natural gas detectors. $63 is about
the average cost. Likely more like $40 yankee bucks.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:36:54 -0500, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Years ago my brother gave me a CO detector for my birthday. He always
finds good things to buy, that I don't even realize would be good**
I don't remember how the problem started. but the loud CO alarm woke me
up one night. I opened the window and turned off the oil furnace. It
was a cold night, and after a while I was torn whether to shut the
window again, so I could go to sleep. But I didn't want the big sleep.
The alarm wasn't alarming, but I think I had a slight headache and
didn't want to take chances. But it was getting cold quickly. After 20,
25 minutes I shut the window and went back to sleep.
Next day called the furnace guy. He took off the 6" stove pipe leading
to the chimney. A two-inch doughnut made of nothing but soot!!!.
Leaving only 2 inches in the middle for the exhaust. That's 1/4 the
BTW, there's a story running around that oil furnaces can't make CO.
**He also gave me an electronic stud finder. My brother doesn't do home
repairs. I wonder how he even thought of that. My reaction was, I'll
never use it, but I used it over and over and over agains.
Wow. The difference has grown. Last I noticed, I think 93c US was a
It's more than the difference in the buck (right now in the 88 cent
range).A lot of that type of stuff is just plain cheaper in the USA
even taking exchange into consideration. I guess having a market ten
times the size of the Canadian market has something to do with it??
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:51:50 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
Hmmm. I guess there's a lot about marketing and economics that I don't
I know a lot of electronics products made in Japan, or at least made by
Japanese companies in countries near them, are cheaper in the US than in
Japan. But I thought that had to do with Japanese taxes or something.
(I don't know what prices are like in China, or how many Chinese can
afford to buy their products, even at US prices.)
I would think one could treat Canada as any 30 million person section of
the US. Most chains in the US don't cover the whole country, or if
they do like the mail-order catalog, I mean webpage, of Sears, they are
still just one of many buyers.
Does NAFTA only affect things made in the US, Canada, and Mexico, and
not how Chinese or Japanese companies exporting here elate to us?
Well you can go into any Target store in the USA, then come up to
Canada and go to a Target store, and the prices will shock you. Same
with book stores. Even when out dollar was up to $1.15, a book that
sold for $8.99 in US stores was $14.99 here.
Part of it is taxes, but definitely not all of it.
Part of it is the fact that to sell any product in Canada it MUST have
both english and french on the lable, and have all instructions and
warnings in both languages - so they can't just toss a box across the
border from Detroit to a store in Windsor, or from Buffalo to Niagara
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