Is it normal to smell natural gas near water heater?

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Who would have a natural gas detector in their house?
I don't and don't know anyone who does.
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On 11/12/2014 10:31 AM, terrable wrote:

Some campers and RV have a LP detector near the floor. But NG detector in a home? Not heard of such.
When I did HVAC, I used to have a gas beeper for use on the job, but that's not the typical HO situation.
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On 11/12/2014 10:41 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Excellent point!
Given that propane is heavier than air, having a *small* propane leak in a house with a basement or below grade crawl space is an explosion waiting to happen. A *small* propane leak is probably less dangerous in an above grade slab house.
Given that natural gas is lighter than air, a *small* natural gas leak seems far less dangerous.
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terrable wrote:

Hi, I do, NG, CO, flame, smoke detectors, why not? I even had them in my fiver when I had it. Any thing wrong having them?
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You lead a sheltered life. They are readily available from Home Centers. You can get a combo flammable gas and carbon monoxide detector. For that price, why would you NOT have one if you have gas? (I don't have gas so I don't)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Kidde-Plug-In-Combination-Explosive-Gas-Carbon-Monoxide-Alarm-Detector-with-Battery-Back-up-KN-COEG-3/100003545
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No "safe amount" of any explosive gas can be detected by human nose. Our noses have not been trained to discriminate between safe and unsafe odours. This is why gas companies ask people to notify them if they ever smell gas.
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On 11/12/2014 3:46 PM, Don Phillipson wrote:

Natural gas has no detectable odor at all -- it's only the mercaptan oderant added that can be detected by the nose. It's so strong simply so that a tiny amount is detectable by almost everybody (albeit I can often not notice the trace amounts spoken of above when some others claim it smells strongly of it to them; my sniffer ain't so hot as some I gather).
The measurement devices used by the gas co aren't "smelling", they're using active sensing to detect the actual methane/propane/whatever...
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:41:00 -0500, Stormin Mormon

Why is it worse when a camper goes boom than when a home does?

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On 11/12/2014 8:14 PM, micky wrote:

Campers usually lighter weight material, they burn down FAST. Of couese, now days homes go down fast, also. per goes boom than when a home does?

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I have CO and smoke detectors, but wrt NG and flame, I say, Bring it on!

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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 10:41:00 -0500, Stormin Mormon

Getting more common - Co detectors are now MANDATORY in any living space in Ontario, joining smoke detectors. Many Co detectors are combination natural gas detectors. $63 is about the average cost. Likely more like $40 yankee bucks.
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On 11/12/2014 8:36 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

New York State passed some thing about monoxide detectors, about five to ten years ago. So, it's aparently favored by socialist governments in the US, also.
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At least it is natural gas, which is lighter than air and dissipates, instead of propane which pools on the floor until it reaches an ignition source.
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:36:54 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Years ago my brother gave me a CO detector for my birthday. He always finds good things to buy, that I don't even realize would be good**
I don't remember how the problem started. but the loud CO alarm woke me up one night. I opened the window and turned off the oil furnace. It was a cold night, and after a while I was torn whether to shut the window again, so I could go to sleep. But I didn't want the big sleep.
The alarm wasn't alarming, but I think I had a slight headache and didn't want to take chances. But it was getting cold quickly. After 20, 25 minutes I shut the window and went back to sleep.
Next day called the furnace guy. He took off the 6" stove pipe leading to the chimney. A two-inch doughnut made of nothing but soot!!!. Leaving only 2 inches in the middle for the exhaust. That's 1/4 the intended cross-section.
BTW, there's a story running around that oil furnaces can't make CO. NOT true.
**He also gave me an electronic stud finder. My brother doesn't do home repairs. I wonder how he even thought of that. My reaction was, I'll never use it, but I used it over and over and over agains.

Wow. The difference has grown. Last I noticed, I think 93c US was a
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It's more than the difference in the buck (right now in the 88 cent range).A lot of that type of stuff is just plain cheaper in the USA even taking exchange into consideration. I guess having a market ten times the size of the Canadian market has something to do with it??
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:51:50 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Hmmm. I guess there's a lot about marketing and economics that I don't know.
I know a lot of electronics products made in Japan, or at least made by Japanese companies in countries near them, are cheaper in the US than in Japan. But I thought that had to do with Japanese taxes or something.
(I don't know what prices are like in China, or how many Chinese can afford to buy their products, even at US prices.)
I would think one could treat Canada as any 30 million person section of the US. Most chains in the US don't cover the whole country, or if they do like the mail-order catalog, I mean webpage, of Sears, they are still just one of many buyers. .
Does NAFTA only affect things made in the US, Canada, and Mexico, and not how Chinese or Japanese companies exporting here elate to us?
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micky posted for all of us...

You could have called the fire dept (I responded to many of these calls). If you had symptoms (which you seem to allude to) you would have gotten EMS.
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wrote:

Well you can go into any Target store in the USA, then come up to Canada and go to a Target store, and the prices will shock you. Same with book stores. Even when out dollar was up to $1.15, a book that sold for $8.99 in US stores was $14.99 here.
Part of it is taxes, but definitely not all of it.
Part of it is the fact that to sell any product in Canada it MUST have both english and french on the lable, and have all instructions and warnings in both languages - so they can't just toss a box across the border from Detroit to a store in Windsor, or from Buffalo to Niagara Falls.
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 07:23:20 -0500, Stormin Mormon

You don't need to worry about gas leaks or Co poisoning in your drafty trailer.
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On 11/13/2014 5:45 PM, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

> or Co poisoning in your

I presume you're willing to bear the full replacement value and medical expenses, should such occur?
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