I would like to repaint my family room to match the hall. The hall is a
very pale (almost white) green. The family room is currently a dark
shade of pink, between dusty rose and pepto bismal. The family room
paint is semi gloss. The hall is also semi gloss, but went over flat
contractor beige. How hard will it be to cover the dark pink, and get
the shade the same as the hall? There is a large opening from one to
the other, so if they are not a good match, it will be obvious to anyone
that we tried to get close but didn't make it. Any tips or special
products I'll need?
My experience is that pink is hard to cover, especially with a light
color. You'll want a good quality paint -- one of the higher lines at
Sherwin-Williams or Porter, for instance. Even then it *might* take a
Obviously, the best way to match the hall paint is take a sample of it
to the paint store -- the old can or something with the paint on it.
(Actually the best way is to have the formula from the old can.)
Next is to go through the color chips [sometimes a paint store will let
you borrow one of their color decks), and even then it'll probably
involve buying test quarts to make sure you're getting what you want.
I'd start with a color that's close but on the light side -- the paint
store can adjust the test quart to zero in on the color, and it's
easier to darken a color than to lighten it. Often paint stores will
give a bit of a discount on test quarts, so you should ask about that.
If you're intent on matching the color be ready to put your patience to
the test. Sometimes it can prove to be nearly impossible. Just a
thought -- you may, at some time during the process, want to consider a
color that's close to the hall paint. Close can look as good as exact.
oh... and I don't see a need for primer.
It's virtually impossible, so you have to paint up to an edge (inside or
outside corner). There, as long as the paint is pretty close, the way the
light plays on it makes it impossible to tell the difference. To see for
yourself, go look at any corner in your house. You'll notice the paint on
the 2 walls will usually look like 2 different shades if you look closely.
You can probably cover it in one coat if you use a quality paint such as
Sherwin Williams SuperPaint, or similar. Are you sure it's semi-gloss and
not eggshell or satin? In any case, you should be fine.
Thanks for all the advice. It is definately semi-gloss, as I picked it
out myself 4 years ago. The color was right on the sample on the can,
but not right in the room. He hired pros to paint last time and they
did a terrific job, the color just wasn't what I expected when done, so
I've been living with it since, not wanting to eat the expense. The
hall has no windows, just the glass in the front door, so as mentioned,
the light plays with the colors already, so perhaps that will give me
some leeway. Will head to Sherwin Williams with the small can of the
hall paint to see if we can get the mix right and will plan on at least
2 coats just to be safe. Thanks again!
That's common. I suggest people get a test quart and put a big sample
on the wall.
-OR- Get poster board and make a really big color chip. People like
this idea because they can make just one big sample and move it to
different walls. This has helped a lot - usually people stick with
they're color, but there have been plenty of times they adjust it or go
to something else. Certainly saves trouble or "living with it" for 4
If you go to most proper paint stores (IE Color Your World, Sherwin,
Glidden, etc) the people themselves there will tell you to use a tinted
primer. Don't forget also that primer is used for not only colour hiding,
but also to promote paint adhesion as well. I used top quality paint in my
apartment and painted the bedroom red and DIDN'T use a tinted primer -
result, after *5* coats I ALMOST had proper coverage. Moved into a house
shortly thereafter, same red, same premium paint, 1 coat of tined
primer.......1 coat of paint. done.
I would never skip the primer, for both hiding and adhesion purposes.
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong" Dennis Miller
You've gotten lots of advice, but....here goes. Primers have two main
purposes: isolating stains so they don't bleed through, and adhering new
coat to old coat. With semi-gloss, it may be more important to use the
right primer (purchased from a real paint store). Coverage will be no
different with a primer, except that it counts for about a coat of
paint. Dark colors with light over will probably require two, if not
three coats of paint. Probably the reason "off white" is so popular;
not because it is a pretty color. Even pale over pale require (for me)
two coats, and often the contrast is remarkable if they are opposites on
color wheel. <
Exactly. Even a fresh coat of white over an old coat of white can and
probably will take 2 coats.
The only part we differ is the need for primer when painting over
semi-gloss walls. I understand the thinking but walls are sufficiently
rough enough to cretae adhesion. It's not like trim or other smooth
suraces, where there's nothing for the new coat to grab onto. Same goes
for urethane - if you don't sand after the 1st coat, the 2nd coat will
just chip off. Walls are nothing close to that kind of smooth.
The only catch is oil-base on walls, but thankfully people have pretty
much outgrown that.
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