Installing 5" cans

[sidwelle]

We are remodeling and have chosen to install some 5" cans in the ceiling.

Went to Menards and found a couple of selections by Patriot and Sylvania.

Question:

What type is best to install for remodeling ? Of course all have the sprin g tabs that spread-out and hold against the dry-wall. But its seems there is the older style of large bare metal cans w/o the baffle included, and th en some new styles that require a smaller hole and the baffle and trim are included ?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

[sidwelle]

ing tabs that spread-out and hold against the dry-wall. But its seems ther e is the older style of large bare metal cans w/o the baffle included, and then some new styles that require a smaller hole and the baffle and trim ar e included ?

Any suggestions ?

Most people install CFL or LED bulbs, so is the heat factor really an issu e ?

[Mayayana]

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I wouldn't install lights with clips. I'd open the ceiling and put in boxes with mountings, so that the clips are in the cylinder and not attaching to the ceiling. The clip type tend to come lose over time. But that's just my opinion. It may not be feasible for you to open the ceiling.

As for heat, that's always a risk with older houses. They're not designed for recessed lighting. With LED bulbs it's less of a risk, but how do you know that someone won't install incandescent spots down the line?

[hrhofmann]

Check with your local building code/inspector as to what is legally required before going any further.

[John G]

ing tabs that spread-out and hold against the dry-wall. But its seems ther e is the older style of large bare metal cans w/o the baffle included, and then some new styles that require a smaller hole and the baffle and trim ar e included ?

I usually install Halo H7RT 6" remodel cans for my customers. I get these a t my local electrical supply. There are more options for bulbs and trims a nd the 6" cans are cheaper. Also the pro version of Halo trims are cheaper and only available at the supply house. I think I usually use the ERT 709 white coilex trim with a BR40 bulb. Ideally I prefer to install the remode l cans next to a joist. In case the clips don't hold well, I can always sh oot a screw into the joist to lock the can in place.

John Grabowski

[sidwelle]

ing tabs that spread-out and hold against the dry-wall. But its seems ther e is the older style of large bare metal cans w/o the baffle included, and then some new styles that require a smaller hole and the baffle and trim ar e included ?

We went and sat down w/a designer and he stated that the trend right now is the 5" can lights and I think my girlfriend fell in love w/the look.

Menards and HomeDepot don't have much of a selection in 5". I will probably have to look somewhere else.

[trader_4]

That's one hell of a lot of extra work when ceiling drywall is perfectly capable of supporting 5" cans.

The clip type tend to come lose over

The fixture is almost certainly listed and labeled for what bulbs it will accept. I sure wouldn't complicate my job 10X to solve some future problem that some incompetent might cause. An idiot can take a 150W bulb and put it into many fixtures that are only rated for 60W.