If you had roofing work done:

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If you had roofing work done:
1. Did you check your attic to see if there is debris on the furnace or recessed lighting? 2. Did you check to see if the covers on your furnace did not fall off from the vibration from all the hammering? These are fire hazards that a good roofer should have checked for and a bad roofer may not have at the end of the job.
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did you inspect the chimney and cap from above?
in places with freezing weather a cracked cap can let water get between the liner and chimney bricks, the rain water freezes and expands the liner breaks and falls down blocking the flue...
it nearly killed my family, a friend happened to stop to visit he is a volunteer fireman and realized the symptoms which began to effect him too was carbon monoxide.
the roof had been replaced but the roofer didnt fix the badly detoriated cap
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Say what? Using your analogy, if I had my windows replaced, I should be complaining they didn't fix my steps on the deck.
Do you not have your heating components checked, and expect anyone NOT qualified to go ahead and just fix stuff?
I do believe if a roofer were to fix a HVAC problem, they could be sued, or at least have their license revoked.
Does that mean, next time I have a HVAC person in, to complain they didn't clean my gutters?
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Tyler wrote:

license and skill set, but most tradesmen a generalists to a degree, and they should definitely Speak Up about any problems they note while working on whatever they were hired for. So if the roofer (or more likely, the guy up on the roof doing the estimate) notices problems with the chimney, he should say 'hey while I was up there, I noticed something that you should probably take care of before we strip your roof off.'
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This _may_ be true, "if" the problem existed b/4 the roof was done. It may also be true "if" they were looking for problems.
It would be like blaming a plumber replacing a soil stack, the roof is leaking & they didn't mention the roof was bad.
Way too many people don't want to take responsibility as a home owner. If one is not capable of finding problems or potential problems with their home, they should hire a home inspector. Blaming a roofer for _not_ finding a HVAC problem or masonry problem, which _may_ or may _not_ existed, is showing how irresponsible of a homeowner they are.
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Tyler wrote:
Way too many people don't want to take responsibility as a home owner. If one is not capable of finding problems or potential problems with their home, they should hire a home inspector. Blaming a roofer for _not_ finding a HVAC problem or masonry problem, which _may_ or may _not_ existed, is showing how irresponsible of a homeowner they are.
Were not talking about finding a HVAC problem. Were talking about finding a life threatening hazardous situation. According to your logic if the furnace or water heater vent doesnt have a bucket where it enters the roof then the roofer shouldnt be responsible for just roofing around it like the previous roofer did, or I shouldnt be responsible if I shove your ninety year old grandmother when she gets in front of me on line even if she does drop dead of a heart attack. As for knowing if the problem existed before or not, it is part of the preliminary work site inspection to look UNDER the roof as well as over it; and yes life is a bitch, and then you die.
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I see I struck a nerve about being irresponsible. A _responsible_ homeowner would have at least 1 CO detector, a lot of homeowner's have two CO detectors. One shouldn't have to wait for a someone to tell you, the symptoms you have are from CO, then try to blame a contractor, which has nothing to do with it. That is irresponsibility at it's finest.
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In a total electric home?
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Ron wrote:

Any females in the house, with the usual curling irons, stinky candles, flat irons, crockpots, ad infinitum? Any fireplaces, gas or wood? Any soldering irons? Ever put up a Christmas tree with old-style light bulbs on it? 'Total electric' does not eliminate the chance of CO problems, it just reduces them. Anything hot near anything that can burn can produce a slow smoldering fire.
I need to get one myself, but since I live alone, none of the above apply to me. Furnace and water heater, both gas fired, are my only two plausible ignition points. Just never got a round tuit.
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I live alone too, and if I die from CO poisoning from a candle or Crock-Pot....then so be it. If I start living with a female again and I die from a curling iron...then so be it.
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wrote:

I knew a guy who was curled to death. He made a circle 24 inches in diameter. Had to be uncurled to fit in the coffin.
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wrote:.

LOL... Well, then they wouldn't have had a problem with the furnace flue in the first place. Would they?
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Well, if they want repeat customers and referrals, they take the 2 minutes to look at what's up there when they're up there. It's not like the deck and the windows which are easy to look at. It's almost never easy to get up on the roof (unless a window looks out on it), and the older people get the harder it gets. And a sloped roof gets riskier the older one is.
A report by a roofer, who doesn't stand to get money from a repair, can be even more helpful than a report from a mason or HVAC guy, who might possibly be finding work to do that need not be done. Of course a roofer who doesn't really know how to tell should say to the owner just what he knows, no more, no less, and how much he knows about chimney.

Yes people should be responsible, and when it comes to homes, if they're not responsible they're likely to pay for it.
But even responsible people, those who inspected their chimneys in some other way, might well be annoyed if the roofer was up there and didnt' report anything, especially if other roofers in the area do check things out, and for example, a friend tells the first guy how his roofer found safety problems with his chimney.
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That is what home inspectors are for. Aside from that, a responsible homeowner will have CO detectors. Who are you going to blame about _not_ having CO detectors?
You don't wait for someone to tell you, the symptoms you have, are from CO poisioning. Sooner or later, people have to take on being a responsible homeowner, whether they like it or not. You can't keep pointing fingers, believing that excuses you from being responsible.
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at the time this occured CO detectors for homes werent available ..........
and the chimey sweep who I had fix it stated clearly it should of been fixed by the roofer
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Interesting take. Why would you call a chimney sweep, since you claim it's a roofer's job?
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And I don't put much stock in home inspectors either. Several friends of mine ARE home inspectors - and nothing against them, but I know of others that can make a mountain out of a molehill, and then turn around and miss Mount Everest.

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Huh? Things deteriorate over time. How often is a homeowner going to hire a home inspector to inspect the whole home, when almost nothing has changed. Or do they have a special rate for things on the roof?
At any rate, how often do you hire a home inspector? The guy is ON the roof already. At the very least, if he knows nothing, he could look at the chimney and say it if is crumbling. Or that the cap is half=way off, if he can't tell it's missing when it's totally missing.

There can be a lot of deterioration before it actually causes CO. Or there could be nothing wrong yet except the missing cap. If the roofer wants his business to grow, he should spend a 2 or 4 hours and find out how to inspect a chimney, etc. That will either set him apart from the average roofer and get him much approval if he notices something important, or if other roofers already know, he won't be looking worse than they anymore.

I don't look for people to blame. That's your theory about other people.

In this case someone had symptoms. In other cases, there is a visible problem on the roof but no symptoms inside the house.

No one is doing that.

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Molly Brown wrote:

Thanks for thinking of us, but up here in cold country, almost nobody has recessed lights (heat leaks unless you get the expensive kind or build a box around them), and furnaces are in the frigging basement where they belong.
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wrote:

well you still have to check it when you put in a new basement floor.
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