Everything is comparable.
Tells me more about you being willing to compare things based on 1 parameter.
The question is, is the Bosch worth $437 more for homeowner use?
And there is a matter of convenience, speed of acquisition and return, availability of stock, and return policies.
How long since I last pointed out you don't think gud? -----
- gpsman
================================ The sale is NEXT weekend, 8th, 9th, and 10th! ================================
You raise a couple of good, though rebuttable, points.
If I go bowling once every six months, I'm happy to rent the shoes at the bowling alley for $3.00 instead of laying out $60.00 for my own personal pair.
I don't own a 22' truck so I'll be ready to move a bunch of stuff (if ever). Instead, I'll simply rent one from U-Haul when the need arises. I'm quite satisfied to own a $5.00 water shut-off key instead of a $200.00 motorized one.
Point is, a $100 tool allows me to do the same things, perhaps not as well, as a $600 model. The difference is not between a $100 and a $600 tool; the difference is between $100 tool and nothing.
I understand the motivations of those who want the best possible tool. But I'm not in that group. I have different needs and derive my satisfaction in a job differently. If any would rather do without a (sort-of) suitable tool, more power to them.
In passing, I'll note that if using an "inferior" tool results is something less than acceptable, I'll plant ivy.
My De Walt came with an OK, but not great blade. I lent the saw to someone doing laminate flooring figuring he would trash the blade and he pretty much did. I sent it to Ridge Carbide for sharpening and WOW, better than new.
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 21:59:05 -0800 (PST), gpsman wrote:
Yep. AFAIK, Heybub won't be using the saw for production work. I bought a Craftsman 10" SCMS for $119 - on sale. Reg price was about $159.. Sears is always jacking around prices and "models." Close to this one
Have to remember that the OP is "heybub". So given their posting history who knows what they are actually doing...
My objection wasn't related to an amateur's use of the saw vs. a pro's use. My objection was related to your use of the word "comparable".
If we go by definition #1 below, then your use of the word "comparable" is fine. Both the HF and Bosch are "similar." They are both 12" sliding miter saws.
However, if we go by definition #2, and bring "equivalent quality" into the discussion, then the word "comparable" doesn't fit.
I can only speak for myself, but when I see a statement like "save $510 over comparable Bosch 5312" I lean towards thinking the speaker is using definition number #2. Maybe that stems from my dislike of sleazy sales critters.
From that perspective, I don't see the 2 saws as "comparable".
com·pa·ra·ble
/?kämp(?)r?b?l/
Adjective
OK, I see your point. My use of "comparable" was hyperbole - exaggeration for the purpose of emphasis. On the other hand, my intended use DOES rank the two saws as "comparable." They both chop 2x4s, they both (probably) make
90d cuts. They both look pretty.Good enough for me. I should have made that point more clear.
snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
I have a biscuit joiner for sale. So far only nibbles, no takers. As the Festoolers have said, you buy a Domino and that is automagically a
30-day trial (I forget the specifics). There must be a local hardware store near you that sells it ... Then let us know what you do at the end of the trial.
I used my biscuit jointer once, too sloppy. It's a PC, so it's one of the better ones but I couldn't align the boards (edge gluing) worth squat.
Sure, there are loads of places that sell them. There's a Woodcraft and a Rocklers (was there today) just on the other side of town, but I much prefer Highland Woodworking as a Festool disty (they have everything in stock). Haven't wanted to pony up the $900, yet, though.
Hitting it with the nail isn't fun either.
I thought I'd rather have had the 10", too, after I got my 5213. One of the first things I did was cut 2x6s to build knee walls in the attic above the garage (think bonus room). Since the roof has a 15:12 pitch, I was glad I had the bigger blade. ;-)
I have the Bosch equivalent on my DeWalt planer and use a DeWalt stand on my Bosch SCMS (and HF, when I use it).
I much prefer the DeWalt stand. The supports are much better and it really isn't any fun rolling the stand around. It's awkward because you can't take a full stride (feet can't go under the legs).
Tough call. If you made normal posts you wouldn't attract as much attention to yourself...
If, by "normal," you mean gratitous insults, profanity for profanity's sake, or other posts of an excitable nature often seen here, then I'm afraid you'll continue to be disappointed.
I don't do "normal." When I make a mistake, or an error is called to my attention, I almost always acknowledge it, often apologizing for conveying the wrong information. When another poster offers an explanation or a reference link, I often thank them for the trouble.
Admittedly, these actions are not "normal," but it's what I do.
Did you miss, or just choose to ignore, the first part of that statement?
"If we compare no other specs..."
No decision should be made based on that one parameter, but the willingness of a company to provide a lengthy warranty should carry a lot of weight in the decision process.
As I pointed out to HeyBub, the issue is not with homeowner use vs. pro use, it's with the use of the word "comparable." See my response where I show 2 different definitions of "comparable" and how one fits and one doesn't. HeyBub expanded on his use of the word "comparable" and we are now on the same page.
...and quality of item and length of warranty.
HomeOwnersHub website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.