That's the real problem. Right now, only two are actually *out* of water
(they are using it faster than it comes in).
The rest of them (including me) are *slow* on water, which just means
that it will only get worse since the next forcasted rainfall is some
time around Halloween.
Kurt Ullman wrote, on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:44:25 -0400:
How much does it cost to drill a well an additional 100 feet?
I don't know. Mine are something like 400 feet deep (I think), but
what would it cost to drill that to 500 feet? I don't know.
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:36:14 AM UTC-4, DannyD. wrote:
With plastic casing, which is what is being used here these days,
AFAIK you can't just drill an existing well deeper. You have to start all over.
Steel casing, etc maybe you can. I'd definitely find out about that
Since they are 2,000 altitude, it may be there
isn't enough water to be useful. Danny, do any
of your neighbors have good supply of water?
If no neighbors have water, it's possible the
deeper well option isn't viable.
Lets also look at the time factor. Suppose
that Danny or other worker decides to shuttle
thousand gallon trips. Fill the tank will probably
be 10 minutes at hydrant, plus connect and dis-
connect. Threads, put the meter back on the truck,
and so on. At the house, we're not sure what is the
GPH with a pump, there is time needed to pump into
the house tank. Drive up and down the hill. Anyone
want to make a SWAG as to the time for one shuttle?
More than anyone expects, I'm sure.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:21:57 -0400:
Just dump water into the tanks.
Everyone, by code, has to have something like 10,000 gallons or
15,000 minimum (codes changed over time) so we would just
dump the water into the top of the water tank that every
Five miles is too long for garden hose, even if
it had the flow and pressure.
The local tanks, are the tanks inground, or above
ground? Inground, you can probably gravity drain
from the truck tank.
I sense this will turn into a one man project, and
that one man will be rather busy.
Stormin Mormon wrote, on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:21:57 -0400:
The fire hydrant would likely fill the tank on the truck,
but, the homeowner water tanks are ten to fifteen (or so)
feet up in the air, and some are on hills above the houses.
So, the pump is to get the water from the truck all the
way up (maybe fifteen or twenty feet?) to the top of the
water tank, which is the only ready-made opening.
"Now that you have read all the posts before replying
to the posts, put your name on the top of the paper
and turn it in."
Since houses all have electric (right?) you can use a HF
or similar well pump. Since you figure to do this more than
once, you can build a fill pipe or tap into the existing
fill system, for your own use. Ideally, there is existing
way they fill the tanks, from the well. You can put in a
valve, to fill from the truck. Run an extension cord down
two flight of stairs, and move the washing machine to get
at the good electric socket behind the washing machine for
each tank load of water. Could turn into good exercise.
I can see this turning into a major social event for the
delivery guy, as it may take an hour (or more) to pump
the truck tank to the house tank. Won't you please come
in and tell me all about aunt Myrtle's lumbago? And how's
Aunt Bee doing? Goober says hey.
On 6/28/2014 12:41 AM, DannyD. wrote:>
> Everyone has 10,000 or 15,000 gallon tanks of water. Most have two
> or three large tanks. I don't think anyone doesn't have a tank or three.
> So, that's where the water would be stored.
With that much capacity, you might look into a
bigger delivery truck. I mean, if you had a
5,000 gal truck, you could split the water off,
and deliver some water to two or three houses
at same time. OTOH, 5,000 is a LOT of weight and
would probably be the size of a semi trailer.
Would be nice to get the local FD out for relay
pumping practice one day a month, and fill ALL
the tanks and be done with it.
Pico Rico wrote, on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:01:57 -0700:
I had called this water service a while ago to fill my pool:
Franks Water Service, 20915 Old Santa Cruz Highway, 408-353-1343
He told me to get someone else because he didn't deliver up the hills,
but, he said it would cost about $4,000 to fill a 40,000 gallon pool.
Total of about 4 miles from end to end (as the crow flies).
Average of about five miles from the nearest San Jose Water Company
fire hydrant to the residences. That's why everyone has their own well.
Actually it's by the month, but I just divided by 30 to get the
daily cost. I didn't ask them at the San Jose Water Company what their
shortest rental period is (I can call them Monday at 408-279-7835).
Some have horses, so they have trailers. I don't have any of that,
and none have volunteered any equipment yet. Some have pickups,
but, it's not farm land, so, most just have Lexus SUVs & Prius'
It sure presents a lot of challenge, for sure.
I'd guess a few folks have those coolers with
five gal jugs to put on top. Not perfect, but
what you gong to do? Get a couple more jugs each
time you go to town.
What does the FD do, with housing and no hydrants?
Would it be a fair guess, that the high mounted
10,000 gal tanks, you're supposed to fill them
during the rainy season, if there is rain?
Gordon Shumway wrote, on Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:11:27 -0500:
There is apparently an "iron pipe" thread, and a "brass fire hose" thread.
I think. I'm not sure, but that will be a detail that must be considered
when the trucking part is figured out.
All of us have what is called a "wharf hydrant" on our residences
which is tied to the bottom 1/3 of the water tanks on the property.
It's the code for Santa Clara County that each house has their own
fire hydrant, but these hydrants are tall skinny things, but I think
the hose is the same as the smaller opening on the San Jose Water Company
fire hydrants miles away.
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