I've a 30-foot tall oak tree blocking my view from my bedroom window that
I wish to prune the top of.
I have a 28 foot ladder and an 18 inch Stihl chainsaw.
Is there a good technique for topping such a tree? I'm worried that the
result will look clipped but I also don't like the tree blocking the view.
Is there an easy way to lop off the top ten feet or so, or will it kill
These oaks are year round green. They drop leaves, but always grow new
ones, so, they're always green. I think it's called a California live
Any topping suggestions? It's about a foot and a half in diameter at eye
level and about 30 feet tall. I want it to be about 20 feet tall.
I am not a tree expert, but I have read from several sources that topping
trees is bad for the tree.
My first suggestion is talk to a tree expert, perhaps your county has a
department or office for these sort of things. In Texas, we call them
Second, I suggest that you forgo your view from upstairs, and perhaps
start exploring your area for other impressive views that you can visit
to satisfy your view hunger.
Exactly, they know what they are doing and have the proper equipment and
will be done in no time. My neighbor had some large trees topped last
year like that. He made a deal with a tree company that they could do it
whenever they were in the area. The trees are filling out nicely.
The NEW GROWTH will be very weak, tend to grow straight and look
wierd, the remaing top may rot.
Sadly he will be creating a long term hazard.
Some selective pruning to open up a view is a better choice, cost less
and avoid future hazards
Agreed, topping just results in rot that will weaken the tree. It's a
tree that will try to grow to a height of 75 to 100 feet. If a 20
tree is what you want you need to cut it down and plant a more
Our neighbors up the street cleared the "natural" area in the front
corner of their lot. Presumably because they didn't want large trees
in front of the house. The they planted a maple tree where they
cleared. I just don't get why people plant these trees that get huge
and then complain when they get huge. There are lots of nice trees
that don't get oevr 20 or 30 feet tall that are suitable to be close
to a house.
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:28:05 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
On my own property?
What do they do? They have tree counters running around counting the oak
trees on your property and, if, you happen to be missing one, they ticket
PS: I'll look that law up; but it's already too late, from the standpoint
of the tree, if California truly has such a tree-hugging law. Anyway, if
they did, I'll argue it was, ummmm... it fell down ... yeah. That's it.
It was a hazard to life and limb. It was going to fall and hit the dog or
something like that. But let me look up the law first before I come up
with the rationale.
Around here the properties are smaller, and there's not much in the
way of logging, so the trees are viewed as a community resource, and
as such they are treated much like a shared aquifer, or the
prohibition against burning leaves. What you do can fuck up your
neighbor. Because of people saying "hey, the tree fell down" and
clear-cutting their property, to the great detriment of their
neighbors' property values, we now need to get permits to take down a
tree above a certain size.
This is from Princeton, NJ:
"Q: What are the penalties for cutting down a tree without a permit?
A: Each tree removed is considered a separate violation. For each
tree removed, the violator is subject to a fine of not more than one
thousand dollars per tree, and shall replace each tree destroyed or
removed with another tree approved by the enforcement officer.
Replacement trees shall be planted near the location of the damaged or
And in Pound Ridge, NY:
And in your (now slightly less vegetative) native state:
What you don't know can fuck you up, too.
BTW, don't post the same question twice, and particularly don't start
a new thread to do so.
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:28:08 -0700, RicodJour wrote:
OK. I looked it up and called the county tree hugger. Where I live, there
is, apparently, no such thing as a protected species. ALL species of
trees are protected, in these parts of California, above a certain size.
- All trees more than 1 foot in diameter at 4.5 feet height are
"protected", regardless of species.
- Protected means you need a (free) permit to cut them down but not to
- Then you need a 'notification period' to allow the neighbors to block
- You can cut the tree down only after the notification period if the
permit application is approved.
- You need to take a picture of the trees to be cut, and describe the
species and show what you will replant with (with a property outline
showing the trees and the plans).
- The species only matters because of something they call 'species
value', which means an oak, for example, is 'worth more' than an
eucalyptus to the environment - which they use in their replacement
- In addition, any tree of any size is 'protected' if it's in the county
right of way, which is anywhere from 4 to 12 feet inward from the road.
Those 'county' trees all need permits from county roads and airports.
I asked about dead and dying trees, and the county engineer said that
those trees do not need a permit; likewise with downed trees.
However, if someone complains after the tree has been cut down, then, he
said, there could be what he called, 'a problem'.
Generally there is no replanting requirement nor a notification period
for dead and dying & downed trees (for example, the myriad Monterey Pines
or California Oaks which die suddenly out here).
He suggested, if the tree is dead or dying or down, then to, at the very
least, snap a picture of the tree, in case someone objects. Otherwise, he
said the safest route is to get an arborist's report which says so; and
submit that report with the application for the permit to remove.
If the county agrees that the tree was dead or dying or down, then they
will notify me that there will be no permitting requirement.
Interestingly, there is a spot on the form for who will do the work, but,
there is no requirement it be done by an arborist.
I have no idea what you're talking about. The second thread is about how
long it takes an oak to dry. This first thread is about how to top a tree.
Two totally different topics (although it's the same tree). :)
PS: The tree was dead and/or dying. I swear.
Sounds similar to a situation my friend had. They have a lakefront
cottage that had some really nice trees. The lake area used to be a
sleepy little place until a second ring of properties were built. So it
is basically nice little lakefront cottages ringed with giant McMansion
"cottages". They went out to their cottage only to find the trees had
been cut down at the direction of a McMansion cottage owner because they
wanted to improve *their* view.
Move your bedroom downstairs and enjoy the view. Before you know it
you will be too old and feeble to make it up the stairs anyway. The
consensus of opinion here is that topping the tree is a just not a
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