What is the best way to paint an existing popcorn ceiling? The room is
20x14. I can move everything out and I am 99% sure that it is NOT made
It is yellowing and crappy looking but I really dont want to remove it.
Im kind of hoping that you guys have some kind of new method for this
nightmare other than priming then rolling. My fingers are crossed!!!
On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 20:30:28 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org (Tony Deb) wrote:
Er...why don't you want to remove it? Yes, it costs, but...
After years of hating mine, I finally got it removed, and gained
several inches of height by doing away with the suspended frame that
had held it. Room must have originally had a "normal" ceiling and
previous owners had the popcorn installed.
Now much more attractive with "Spanish" style plastered ceiling.
Just a thought...
email@example.com (Tony Deb) wrote in
I may get my ass reamed from others here for lack of "proper" prep but...
I've done quite a few. I just vacuum/sweep it off. Any stains or
discoloration, providing the drywall is in good shape, I just go over
with some white primer however many times it needs it. Get decent quality
CEILING paint. I've used the Glidden with good results. Ceiling paint is
thicker. The Borg puts Behr 2 gal buckets on sale for what Glidden costs
at regular price. Get Purdy or equivalent covers. Cheapies are not gonna
hold paint. The knap depends on how heavy the texture is. Use at LEAST
the next step up from what you use on regular walls.
Before you do your first roller dip into the paint, dampen (not soak!)
the roller with water to prime it to absorb paint. Sprinkle a bit on the
roller and rub in with your hand. If you stop in the middle of painting
for some time, cover the roller with plastic wrap. Paint won't dry. Not
even overnight, not even for days.
So what am I gonna get chewed out for on this post? Said nothing about
priming. Said nothing about using special roller covers other than
If that yellowing is some type of significant film like smoke or grease,
that's not good. No paint/primer is gonna bond well to it.
Use common sense as always. Cover furniture, carpets, etc with plastic.
Actually, for floors, a cloth dropcloth is far better than plastic. It
doesn't get in your way, stays where you put it and doesn't tear. You
don't have to buy a pro one from the Borg. I picked up one at Big Lots.
Yea it has seams, unfinished edges, etc. It was 10 bucks for a 9x12.
That's like half of pro Borg stuff. Only drawback I can think of is
spilled paint will go through. Always keep the paint supply on the floor.
Harder to fall on the floor if it's on the floor. But don't keep it
behind you where you will step in or kick it over.
Not sure it's the best, but I had good results spraying. Bought from a
family of heavy smokers and can't even start telling how badly ceiling
and walls were stained. Was years ago, can't remember brand or grade,
but I remember taking my time to prime twice and paint 3 times. The
prep work was a killer...
If you don't remove it and paint over it by whatever method, you will
make it at least four times harder to remove later. If you can indeed
get everything out, then removing the existing popcorn will only take
about an hour or two. A day to prepare the ceiling for whatever new
texture you want and you're done with a much better ceiling than what
you would have had with a crappy painted over popcorn ceiling.
Besides, the next guy may decide that you were an idiot who couldn't
make a good shade tree mechanic and hunt you down and remove you from
the gene pool. I know I feel that way about idiots who put wallpaper on
I don't agree. I painted a couple of my popcorn ceilings a few years ago. A
pro came a couple years later to remove one in the dining room and winced
when he discovered it was painted. But it came down just as easily as if it
weren't painted. Later, I removed the other one myself and it too came down
That said, I too am glad to have got rid of my popcorn ceilings. That is,
except for the living room. There, I have a cathedral ceiling.
Does anyone have any idea how to get up there to remove the popcorn and
retexture? That's the last room I have to do.
Removed the "popcorn" from my ceiling in a few hours. Used a wide scraper
and a good mask. Was easy. Just be careful not to gouge the ceiling with the
scraper. If you have carpeting be sure to cover it well.
Then you were very lucky or didn't use a very good paint. My experience
is vastly different than yours and I can understand why he winced.
The Borg has a tool for scraping popcorn ceilings that attaches to a
long pole. It has this contraption underneath which can hold a bag and
allegedly "catch" the scrapings. My advice is skip the bag, as it gets
real heavy and unwieldy; but the scraper part works like a charm.
After that its scaffolding. Good luck.
Maybe I got lucky. "The Borg"? What is that? Can't find it on Google. I
can't imagine a long pole type contraption working well on a cathedral
ceiling. We're talking 18-20 feet up. Even if it works well for getting
popcorn down, it's not going to work well for putting texture up.
Not too hip on using scaffolding. I may have to rent a hydraulic lift of
some type I guess.
The Borg from the Star Trek (Generations?) series. Somewhere along the
lines in this group Home Depot & Lowe's have become known as The Borg.
One thread even got goofy about "We are Expeditor. You will be expedited.
Resistance is futile.".
I use an airless spayer on a surface like that. they can be rented and
even spray upside down! If you decide to remove it here's how: You
use a pump style garden sprayer. fill it with warm water and spray the
ceiling in the area that can be reached from you ladder or scaffold.
It will then come off quite easily with a wide taping knife. Just
cover your head and eyes and use a drop cloth.
There is a reason popcorn is used: It can be rather difficult to tape
and mud the ceiling with your arms over head not to mention painting
it. When you spray popcorn you can finish the ceiling right now
without any time consuming and bothersom taping, mudding and painting.
dont be surprised when you find that the drywall joints on the ceiling
will be relatively unfinished and will require a lot of work to prepare
for paint. At that point you may decide that the popcorn wasn't so bad
after all. New popcorn is easy to install and requires very little
prep. It goes up real fast with a hopper gun and air compressor.
I always use a "paint stick" roller and a high quality roller cover
designed for the type of ceiling I'm painting. I have a cheapo no-name
paint stick, and it holds just enough paint in the handle that you can
get a lot of coverage before reloading, but it doesn't weigh a ton
while you're holding it over your head. Plus, with the telescoping
handle, you can stand on the floor and slowly walk the room. It seems
to take about 25% of the time needed to paint with an ordinary roller
and pan, and it only takes about 10 minutes longer to flush it out and
clean up. As always, however, YYMV.
You're really better off removing it. Most people are either wary about its
contents/don't like it. Better for resale.
It's not as hard to remove as you may think. (I think we're talking about
the same stuff) I removed mine with a shovel.
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