I will give you the advice my wife gives me every time I say anything
about problems with the grass.
Seriously, if the grass is dying over the same spots in your yard and
repeated efforts to resod are not working, you need to rework the soil
in those areas. There is something in the dirt that is killing the
grass and the only solution is to remove the soil and replace it. In
all probability, the builders dumped some chemicals, paint, or lye in
that area and it is causing the grass to die.
If that doesn't work...ASTROTURF.
Oh, phooey. You can't say that without knowing a lot more about the area and
the problems it faces. There are numerous other things that can prevent grass
from growing in a particular area: deep shade, rocky soil, heavy clay soil,
poor/no drainage... It's irresponsible, not to mention absurd, to immediately
leap to the conclusion that the cause *must* be dumping of toxic waste.
On Apr 13, 7:05 pm, email@example.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
Agree. I also get concerned when someone says that no matter how
much they water, the grass won't grow. Overwatering and doing it
wrong can also lead to fungus and disease which kills grass.
With almost nothing to go on, the list of what could be wrong is long.
On Apr 13, 6:05 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller) wrote:
Gee Doug, don't get your panties in a wad. I said in all probability
and that is true rather you like it or not. Most builders use the
yard to dump construction waste and anyone who has ever observed a
neighborhood under construction knows this. Yes, there are other
causes but the solution in most cases will be to dig out the area and
either replace or amend the soil.
No, it is not true that "in all probability the builders dumped some
chemicals, paint, or lye in that area."
Construction debris, yes. "Chemicals, paint, or lye", no. What "chemicals" are
used on-site in building a house? What does a housebuilder use lye for?
Dumping paint, maybe -- but latex paint won't prevent grass from growing, and
what builder uses oil-base paint now?
You simply don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Without seeing it, and with as little information as the OP provided, you
can't possibly say with any degree of certainty what is preventing grass from
growing in that spot. There may be a concrete slab there, for all you know,
with only half an inch of soil on top of it. Or perhaps that's where the
excavation contractor dumped a bunch of clay from digging the foundation.
There are a hundred possible causes, and it's simply not true that "in all
probability" it's due to dumping of toxic chemicals.
On Apr 14, 10:04 am, email@example.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
Deny all you want but you simply are in denial and need to do some on
And you are in total denial of common practice.
Please learn to READ and COMPREHEND. I didn't say with certainty but
did say probability and the probability remains that whatever is
killing the grass is probably the result of construction dumping.
That may be chemicals, buried construction materials, dumped concrete,
or any number of other things. As for lye being used, lye is a
component of cement which is often washed down from the trucks
delivering concrete to a constuction site.
I used to work construction. I've seen what happens.
No, you simply don't have a clue. Lye?? Come on, don't be ridiculous. What is
a home builder doing with lye?
*You* need to learn to read and comprehend. I know perfectly well you said
"probability" -- I even quoted it.
That's simply false.
It's *possibly* the result of construction dumping. It's also possibly the
result of poor drainage, or a hidden concrete slab an inch under the surface,
or deep shade, or clay left over from the foundation excavation, or a dozen
other things -- and without investigating it on-site, it's not possible to say
that it's "probably" any one of those things.
No, it is not. Lye is NaOH; portland cement is CaO.
Like I said -- you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
On Apr 14, 10:27 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller) wrote:
Then why are you lying about it?
And YOU either are lying about being in construction or have turned
your back on all of the dumping that is common by the construction
crews. I have see lye used by construcion crews preparing for
concrete pours. Lye is also used in some concrete and is leached out
when concrete trucks was out there trucks after dumping their loads.
Was down a few trucks in the same spot and you won't get much to grow
in that spot. The list of dumped materials goe on and on.
In your opinion and only in your opinion.
Yes, I know about all those HIDDEN SLABS an inch under the surface.
They are everywhere!
You might check again, lye is most definately used in concrete and if
you were in construction as you claim, you would know that.
Oh, I agree -- what I'm objecting to is you leaping to the totally unwarranted
conclusion that that's the most likely explanation for a random dead spot in
the lawn. There are many, many other explanations, most of them at least
On Apr 15, 7:50 am, email@example.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
Geez, with so little info given, it could be anything that's causing
this guys "dead spots". Could be grubs, other insects, or disease
for all we know. I agree with Doug, you're wildly jumping to
conclusions that it's probably construction debris related. I don't
know what goes on where anyone else lives, but here in NJ builders
can't use the construction site as a dump. If they do, they can
expect a fine and visit from the DEP.
On Apr 15, 6:50 am, firstname.lastname@example.org (Doug Miller) wrote:
I never said it was. There are a number of different mixtures used in
concrete and lye is a part of most of those mixtures. The only one to
mention Protland cement was you.
Well, you leap to your conclusions and I will leap to mine. Mine were
based on observation. When I had my house built 30+ years ago it was
one if the first in the neighborhood. Since I worked out of my home
at the time I had the chance to watch most of the homes in the
neighborhood being built. Not only were bags of lye used for the
preparation of my homes foundation, I watched it being used on most of
the homes around me. (At least those constructed by the better
builders.) They mixed it with the foundation sand and dirt before
laying down a plastic liner. I am not sure of the reason for its use
but it was used. I also watched as the concrete trucks constantly
washed out their trucks after unloading and they always seemed to dump
in the same spots and the wash it it. In addition, I watched the
construction crews dump all sorts of crap on site from paints to motor
oil and bury a lot of construction materials.
Over the following years it was interesting to see the various
problems my neighbors had with their yards. Since most of them tried
to grow turf lawns it was easy to know what was causing them the most
grief. I had a couple of areas that were early problems as well until
I gave up on trying to grow grass in heavy shade and dug out the soil
to built up the yard for landscaping. The subdivision was cut from a
dense forest and most of the builders had opted to remove almost all
of the trees. Since I got in early and picked my lot, I retained
almost all of my trees. Gave me a totally different set of problems
from most of my neighbors.
Whatever. It's clear you haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about,
but that's ok. Go on thinking that they put lye in the concrete. Put it in
your own concrete if you like, I don't care.
Just don't ever try to mix mortar for anyone else, OK?
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