replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Thom Ianniccari wrote: I am in Northern NJ and in January (which was frigid weather) the gas company said I used 11.522 therms. Does that seem low for those conditions in a 1,500 sq ft house with thermostat set to 55 F?
replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Thom Ianniccari wrote: I am in Northern NJ and in January (which was frigid weather) the gas company said I used 11.522 therms. Does that seem low for those conditions in a 1,500 sq ft house with thermostat set to 55 F?
None of yer beeswax.
replying to Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coo, Mojave Dan wrote: I am so glade you started this=we are almost 70=live in the mountains=its cold and we freeze==we have hot water and heater only=no washer no dryer no stove on gas=and we use little=180. month on low income discount==this therm crap has to go=we pay to build ports so we can sell natural gas all over the world and have built many=why congress are you selling are natural gas all over the world ==that is why we pay high prices==also we are fracking almost ==everywhere=we have so much we can sell it all over the world==2 therms a day must go==Mojave Dan==much love==
Just out of curiosity, I looked at my latest gas bill and converted the CCF that they bill us for to therms. We used about 78 therms before the weather got really cold. Next month's bill should be more.
"Therms" is a dopey unit. They meter by volume, and that's what we are billed for.
Cindy Hamilton
In CT we had oil heat. You just parked a tanker truck outside.
We had the AC on a little the past couple of days. I'm curious how much the electric bill will be come summer. So far, it is cheaper than I've paid in many years.
I just received my bill. For the 29 days ending 19 June, my abode (3 people, gas furnace and water heater) we used 3.810 therms total. The only thing that we do that is super energy efficient is an instant water heater that I insulated further. I am something of an environmentalist, so we waste nothing here. YMMV.
P.S. During frigid NH winters, we use ~50 therms/mo. It's all in temp. control, proper insulation, and use of timers.
P.P.S. I looked at our running total usage for the last 12mo. period. Total came to 244.3 therms. If we had sane winters, that <4 therms/mo. would flatline.
Electricity last month came to 225 kWh. It too goes up a bit during dark, cold winters - which is all of them, but they are trending less cold - but only by several kWh as the furnace blowers(there are two) consume a bit of power.
Date Month Total Bill Therms
9/20/2019 September $17.99 9.5 8/20/2019 August $14.72 6.2 7/22/2019 July $16.11 7.6 6/19/2019 June $7.54 11.0 5/20/2019 May $26.87 18.5 4/19/2019 April $68.39 54.9 3/21/2019 March $73.74 77.1 2/20/2019 February $63.42 64.7 1/23/2019 January $74.28 57.8 12/19/2018 December $54.60 40.4 11/16/2018 November $29.79 21.5 10/19/2018 October $20.70 12.1 9/19/2018 September $16.19 7.6 8/20/2018 August $13.98 5.4
Your numbers make no sense.
57.8 costs $74.28 and 77.1 costs $73.7464.7 costs $63.42 and 54.9 costs $68.39
I didn't compute nor look up to compare, but NG prices can vary pretty radically.
Well, I downloaded the data and then looked up the EIA NG residential price data (only available online thru June this year) and the result is t = 14×6 table Date Month Cost Therms Rate NGPrice __________ ___________ _____ ______ _______ _______ 09/20/2019 'September' 17.99 9.5 0.52807 NaN 08/20/2019 'August' 14.72 6.2 0.4212 NaN 07/22/2019 'July' 16.11 7.6 0.47176 NaN 06/19/2019 'June' 7.54 11 1.4589 15.67 05/20/2019 'May' 26.87 18.5 0.6885 12.84 04/19/2019 'April' 68.39 54.9 0.80275 10.92 03/21/2019 'March' 73.74 77.1 1.0456 9.48 02/20/2019 'February' 63.42 64.7 1.0202 9.47 01/23/2019 'January' 74.28 57.8 0.77814 9.43 12/19/2018 'December' 54.6 40.4 0.73993 9.63 11/16/2018 'November' 29.79 21.5 0.72172 9.43 10/19/2018 'October' 20.7 12.1 0.58454 12.26 09/19/2018 'September' 16.19 7.6 0.46943 17.31 08/20/2018 'August' 13.98 5.4 0.38627 18.63 >>
A scatter plot of the calculated rate versus the NG Price data shows a pretty good linear correlation with one real outlier for June.
There's undoubtedly a fixed cost and other billing details than simply the use factor alone that's not given.
My guess it was a typo. In some places winter prices are higher than summer prices, especially for industrial rates. At one place I worked we had a special rate but the gas company could kick us off when demand was high. They gave us four hours notice and we'd switch to oil.
replying to daestrom, Squiggy wrote: Living in Portland, Oregon. Gas for range, forced air furnace and domestic hot water. Lowest use ~.5 therms / day (summer), highest use ~ 4.5 therms / day (March '19), average about 1.5 therms /day.
May through June, 2021, about 20 therms per month. It was really hot in KS, though, so those therms might have been for only our two hot-water tanks and one dishwasher. I don't remember the numbers from February's polar vortex. Is 20 therms about average, you reckon? There are two of us in a 3,000 sf house
Awfully snippy for a Canadian, Jim
I use a high of 150 T/month in January to a low of 4 T/mo in August. Seattle area, gas heat, water, stovetop, fireplace; 2800 sq ft.
It's been 13 years since Jim snipped at us. Maybe he's mellowed out by now.
I use about 12 therms a month for cooking, hot water, dryer, gas grill. Highest was 14 in the past year. No heating, that is a heat pump the few times needed here..
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