I'm having some hurricane damage repaired (in Florida, from last year).
Replaced drywall includes the entire ceiling on a 2 car garage, and 2 spare
approx 10x10 bedrooms both having closets, ceilings and 3 out of 4 walls,
and one approx 8x5 wall between the bedrooms.
How long would you expect it to take with 2 guys doing the tape/joint
compound work? Tomorrow they'll be on their 5th day, it might go 6.
If all they've done is tape and bed for 4 days it sounds like they have
found a home. A good drywall crew (2 guys) would tape and bed this in a
day or less. Part of a second day for the second coat, and if needed
part of a third day for the third coat. The successive coats could take
more elapsed time if the humidity is and drying slow, but on those days
they work on another job.
Also in FL, depends what you are doing. If you are talking about
ripping out the old, hanging and finishing it might take that long. I
had my entire house sheet rocked a couple of years ago with 15'
ceilings in many areas and it took five days for the entire job. House
is 2200 Sqft.
The drywall was ripped out long ago by the mold remediators. The day before
the finishers started, it took 2 guys around 2 hours to unload and stack the
approximately 30 sheets (having to do some artful maneuvering inside the
house), and another 2 guys about 4 hours to hang it. Of course, the trim and
paint still has to be done, if these finishers get done before they die of
They don't sound like seasoned pros, certainly. Given the scarcity of
almost any construction labor in the SE these days, that's probably not
surprising. A little mess and stuff to stumble around is pretty good
conditions for many. Not that that makes it any less irritating,
Are the other subs actually waiting on them? It sounds like a pretty
small job which may well be part of the problem--if it were my house I'd
probably just work on it when they aren't and keep track of what areas
they don't finish and dock them on that area.
You know, you think you have seen and heard just about everything. You've
watched probably two thousand episodes of Jerry Springer. You listen/watch
Howard Stern. You watch the newspaper for man bites dog stories.
It takes a lot to turn you on. You figure no one in the world can come up
with anything so stupid that it catches your attention.
Then comes along ..................
Some unidentified soul wrote re: the drywall guys .........
There's waiting and then there's waiting. You know somehow that the
other subs aren't tied up on other jobs? Or that the GC actually
scheduled the job instead of just winging this small job?
If you do know for a fact, well, yeah, then I guess the question might
seem questionable. If you don't know, your post is the one that seems
a bit stupid. I guess that comes with the territory after watching a
couple thousand episodes of Jerry Springer.
As Rico suggested, I was simply <wondering> whether the OP (or a GC, the
post doesn't even indicate which) had actually scheduled the finish work
for a specific day and they showed up or whether he (the OP) was simply
ticked 'cause his little job was taking longer than it should.
Obviously it didn't really matter, his situation is as it is/was, I was
just curious about the depth of the rant.
But if you didn't have them scheduled is my point...
As Rico or someone else says...'bout all you can do is either live w/
the crew you got and chill, fire 'em and try to get someone else to do
better to finish (probably not at all likely) or pick up a trowel and
Wish I had better answer, but that's construction/home repair in good
times, what more in a situation such as exists in the SE at the present
(and for the foreseeable future as long as one can foresee)... :(
I hope you are paying a flat price for the job, not by time...they are
taking way too long.
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It's an insurance job. They're subs working for a general contractor so it's
not costing me any more. It's a father/son, one of them apparently has
some sort of physical disability, says he's getting over Hep C and has
arthritis. I was only here the first day and the father's favorite topic of
conversation seemed to be all the bad decisions he's made and the various
people who have screwed him over in business. At least he seemed to keep
working while he's blabbing.
It took a couple of guys about 2 hours to unload the drywall (around 30 12ft
sheets) , then 2 other guys about 4 hours to hang it. These finishers
started last Thurs. and when they first got here they said they figured it
would take 4 days. and worked on it thurs, fri, sat, yesterday (mon.) and am
expecting them back today. On the wall between the 2 b/r's they hit the
joints in the center but for some reason didn't start on the joints around
the perimeter until I left a note yesterday pointing it out. For some reason
there was also a large gap in the joint at the wall/ceiling in one b/r which
I also mentioned in the note. Since they only put the initial coat on those
joints yesterday, obviously they have to put another coat on today so I'm
guessing they'll have to come back tomorrow, which would be 6 days.
Initially I was going to only have them be here when I was here on my days
off but they seem decent enough and have been in business for some time, so
I have a key hidden for them to use. Valuable/sensitve stuff is moved into
my master b/r which I keep locked. Geezus, I'm glad I did, they'd have been
here bloody forever if I'd limited it to days when I could be here.
The guy's are there working, it's an insurance job and they won't be
looking for more money, you trust them enough to let them have a key,
one of them has arthritis, it's pretty much standard to hit the center
joints before the perimeter (assuming you mean corners), it's a
father/son team and they have been in businesss for a while and seem
decent, they worked on a Saturday and on a holiday. That about sum it
up? What are you complaining about?
There's an old saying - cheap, fast or good, you can get any two out of
the three. If you wanted faster, you should have paid for faster, but
since the damage was from _last_ year, I don't see why all of a sudden
it has to be done in a rush. They may be a little slow, but you just
They hit all the other corners at the same time. It isn't apparent to me why
they couldn't have done these at the same time. It's going to take just as
long for it to dry and by not doing it when they started everything else,
they've unnecessarily added even more time to the job.
How many people besides bank, gov't and school employees didn't work on the
"holiday"? Did you work on Monday? I did.
Now that I don't have the rooms to use even for storage, my house is turned
upside down until the work gets finished. I paid the GC, there wasn't any
checkbox for "faster, able-bodied sub". And from what I'm seeing, they're
not beating their brains out to make a neat job of it, at least not the part
that the father is doing.
I asked a question as to how long it should take. Yours seems to be the
Well, since I can't tell from here, unless you ask them directly you'll
never know if there was a reason or not.
Made a couple of phone calls in the late afternoon and called it a day.
But it's not really about my work hours or yours, is it? They're
there working and not taking days off and leaving you in the lurch. If
the guys worked more quickly, but didn't work on Saturday and/or
Monday, would that have been preferable?
I hadn't realized that you were using a GC. You hadn't mentioned that.
Aren't these questions better directed at him? He's the one that
hired the guys and can motivate them.
You had written in an earlier post that they had originally said it
should take about four days to do the work, and now it looks like it
might take six. Two days difference. Getting bothered by that small
difference in time does smack of impatience. Particularly when there's
still trim and painting to do. Sentences such as "Of course, the trim
and paint still has to be done, if these finishers get done before they
die of old age." (this on a week long job), tells me you're impatient.
If you had a strict schedule you should have included a "time is of the
essence" clause with stated damages. Of course, that would have caused
the price to go up and/or the GC to tell you to take a hike, but it's
the only way to insure completion on a schedule.
You could also have specified that you wanted the first coat to be a
setting-type compound, such as Durabond. That would have eliminated
almost all of the drying time as the later, thinner coats dry much more
I rarely check other people's opinions before I formulate my own, but
again, that's besides the point. You seem to have misunderstood my
meaning. Should it have taken less time? Probably. So what? What
difference does that make at this point when they're finishing in
another day? You're getting upset over nothing.
In general, you should probably ask your questions before the work
takes place. It's impossible to prevent headaches after they have
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