On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:11:43 GMT, email@example.com (Doug Miller)
I tried to reply to recent message from you:
You got a nasty PING the other day.
This is uncalled for!
When I just replied my reader went hay-wire with ASCI or something -
that would not allow me to reply. So I extended the subject line
Have you a Virus?
Not true. There is no reason to "have" to outbid anyone. You have to have a
good reputation. Some of the highest priced are in demand do to the quality
of their work. Only the government and fools require going with the lowest
bidder. We just gave out a contract (three bids from four contractors) to
the middle bid that was $10,000 higher. There were reasons other that money
for the decision.
I am with you on this one Edwin. I have done nothing but
referral work for years, now, and it is always done on a cost
plus basis. I do an estimate for the job and we use that as a
Some commercial companies always require three bids, but they
want me to do the work. In that case, I turn in my estimate
to them and they get two more from other companies. Even if I
am the highest (I usually fall in between somewhere), I will
still get the job, due to my history with them and my
reputation. That is understood up front. On a couple of
occasions, I was the lowest bid, and that scares the hell out
of me. I always wonder what I left out. I never want to be
the low bid.
But Ron is right about new companies. They obviously have no
reputation and no one to use as references, so they must be
lower than other bids to be considered. Not necessarily the
low bid, but not the highest either. A client that knows what
he is doing does not take the low bid.
When I first started out 35 years ago, I had to do alot of low
bids to get the jobs so I could get in the door with people.
After you get the reputation that people look for, you no
longer have to do that.
Where I live, Phoenix, the Home Depots are good and the Lowe'ses are
bad. Lots of help available at HD, long wait to get anybody at all at
Lowe's. For example, a couple of summers ago, I needed a window air
conditioner, and at Lowe's it took three employees to find them.
Another time, I needed a funny lamp part, and Lowe's didn't know, but
a guy in the gardening dept. at HD told me where to find it at the
other end of the store, within about two square feet. He even got the
elevaton right. And when I couldn't find any copper plumbing fittings
near the plastic and steel ones at Lowe's and asked the employee
there, she asked someone else, "Do we carry something called 'copper
fittings'?" She said she had worked in the plumbing dept. for three
I still like better the hardware store and plumbing store about two
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:24:02 -0800 (PST), "larry moe 'n curly"
It must vary widely from one part of town to the next. I'm in Tempe
and the one on Warner road has gone way downhill. There used to be
knowledgeable people in every department, now it's hard to find
someone and usually they are the wrong person for whatever you want.
and the Lowe'ses are
Big box stores are not all bad. Wal-Mart just took over the lead in my town
(Houston) in selling groceries:
What's dreadful is that some cities don't have a Wal-Mart at all! For
example: San Francisco(0), Chicago(0), Boston(0), New York(0), St Louis(1),
We have 16 Walmarts in Houston. Atlanta has 3, Austin has 7, Dallas 9, Miami
Heck, here in Houston we not have a Harbor Freight store, but we've got a
Northern Tool shop!
I see you've got three Walmarts in Rochester, 11 in the vicinity.
I suspect the dearth of grocery Walmarts has more to do with union
meatcutters than "big players."
You recall the Canada Walmart where workers joined/formed a union in 2004?
Walmart closed the store, putting 200 employees out of work. When the
meatcutters at a Walmart in Texas joined the union, Walmart fired them all
and went to pre-packaged meat.
No, but they do have a response to the "national health care crisis"
Find a (perceived) need and fill it, I always say.
"... I went to one of those medical clinics in Wal-Mart..."
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