If you save time. I tried them twice, two different stores because I
thought I'd save time. In both cases, an item would not scan properly and I
ended up having the clerk watching them fix things up. PITA. Our local K
Mart took them out after 3 months.
My peeve with the self serve checkouts are the people who think there is
one line per station. Most stores that I have seen have them in pairs or
sometimes fours and I will queue up for the group with the intent of using
the next one available, and I let anyone coming after me that is my
intent when it is clear they seem to be scoping out one in particular to
One thing that is a Home Depot peeve with these checkouts: never use them
if you have any "bulk" items like screws/fasteners that you bag yourself
and write down the sku number. These have to be entered by the clerk, and
slows down the process making it slower than using a regular checkout.
Grocery stores I have seen with self-serve checkouts let you do this
yourself, but as one HD associate put it, "they don't have contractors
entering the code for galvanized when they are purchasing stainless".
"Never ascribe to malice what can equally be explained by incompetence."
I was in WalMart yesterday. We got in line at the regular checkout and I
watched to see who was last in line for the self checkout to see what the
time difference was. What I saw was a couple of amateurs taking their time,
chatting, looking over the merchandise and in general taking about 50%
longer than the paid clerk. It was a toss up. I beat two of the self check
lines, the other two beat me. One needed assistance and for all I know,
they may still be there. Like most things in like, "it all depends"
The Wal Mart here has a truly stupid thing going on. You know the way some
cash registers make a little beep every time something is scanned, so the
cashier knows it worked? In the store here, they've somehow run that sound
through the PA system over the registers, at rather high volume. Some wanker
must've thought it sounded festive or something. It's intensely annoying.
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:34:59 +0000, email@example.com
(Calvin Henry-Cotnam) wrote:
Or items that may contain a "security device".
The last time I uses a self-checkout, it was for some LED holiday
lights. It worked OK THAT time.
I go to Wal-Mart a lot (there's a store less than a mile from my
house). I usually avoid the self-checkout. There's too many problems
like those "criminal" devices (the ones they always call "inventory
control", but still make it sound like you're being accused of
something) and various unscannable items.
On 12/10/05 11:13 am Frank Boettcher tossed the following ingredients
into the ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
The DIY checkouts (whether at HD or elsewhere) are in fact one of my pet
peeves: if the item won't scan, there's no way for me to punch in the
UPC. And when I've ripped the UPC code label off a piece of lumber
because I can't get the lumber+label into the scanner's line of sight,
the stupid high-tech-but-brain-dead device keeps telling me to "Place
the item in the bag", as though the only thing anybpody is going to buy
is packages of nails.
Our two closest HD stores have pretty much eliminated checkers and now
rely on DIY checkouts. But fortunately there is a Lowe's much closer,
and a Menard's, and an old-fashioned lumber yard/sawmill.
I also object to DIY checkouts because they are designed to put even
more people out of work. Checkout jobs aren't something that can be
exported to India or Mexico or China, so instead we'll replace them by
machines made in India or Mexico or China.
Decades ago they told us that automation and computerization would mean
a greatly reduced working week, but what has happened is that maybe the
average working week has declined, but with people in "third-world"
countries working well over 40 hrs a week and many of the
formerly-employed in the West working ZERO hours a week. Aren't averages
Complaints about not enough checkers. Complaints about mechanical check-out.
Has it occurred to anyone that both complaints can be eliminated by just
stealing the stuff.
Nobody ever said that. They said productivity would go up, not that hours
would go down.
Sigh. Unemployment in the US, even WITH the Katrina displacements, is at or
below 5% (13% in France, 10% in Germany). Productivity is up. GDP is WAY up
(4+% compared to 1.1% in Germany). Tax receipts to all levels of government
are through the roof.
Meanwhile, small children in Bangladesh are learning the wonders of the
capitalist system. Win-win all around.
Too complex to argue the errors here. Book length post required.
Not a win-win all around. For the US resident who considers work pain the current system is a disaster. For the worker who doesn't
think a plasma TV, a GPS device in his car, a super-duper cell
phone/camera, 10bps of porn a second, 100 channels of video garbage,
etc etc to be necessities of life it's a disaster.
The Bangladeshi (some anyway) is making out like a bandit. Effectively
we're transferring our accumulated wealth to them and to the other
third-world countries. Eventually we'll be on the same living
Numbers don't lie. Go ahead - correct the numbers if you have better ones.
Wow! How so? If one doesn't want or need 100 channels of porn, etc., one
could get by quite nicely, I would think, on the largess of society. For
example, I've got two who live in a field behind my house. They "solicit" at
a nearby busy intersection (it's nice to live close to your place of
employment), "working" whenever they want. They have, evidently, all the
comforts they need, including a dog house for their two animals.
Iz okay. We create, usually, much more wealth than we transfer. If I buy six
pair of Sri Lankan-made socks at Target for a dollar, I've created five
dollars worth of wealth (assuming US made socks cost $6.00) of which maybe
twenty cents gets transferred to Arthur Clarke's kingdom.
There are those (I'm one) who can demonstrate that wealth can be created or,
in the case of most government interventions in the general marketplace,
destroyed. Those who harken to more socialistic models of economics believe
that the amount of wealth is fixed and any movement thereof must involve a
As I said earlier, I'm for win-win scenarios.
It's not the numbers that are incorrect, it's what you intend that
The plasma TV etc are examples of demand for the sake of demand.
Running in place on the treadmill. Apart from some very low paying
jobs, try getting your employer to allow you to work 30 hours a week
instead of 40 for 3/4 of the wages/salary. Lots of luck; it's not
going to happen.
You've lost me again. In the transaction you describe the US worker
displaced by your purchase from Sri Lanka has lost (potentially) $5.
There's no creation of wealth here.
They're not making any more land, or raw materials under it or on it.
My employer has just such a program. It's most often used by young
mothers so they can stay at home with their children but it's also
sold as a program for older employees so they can test-drive
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