I have one kid, no grandkids yet. If I had been in the Florida couple's
situation at the beginning of the mess, and **IF** it's true that the house
was inherited, I would've been out the door quickly after the complaints
became serious. Anything to avoid having the little girl end up in foster
Hopefully, this case will be heard by a real judge, not some local town
justice like the kind we have in many small New York towns, with little or
no legal training.
It's not only a rule. It's a law. A community, under Federal and State
guidelines cannot be considered an adult community and cannot benefit as an
adult community unless at least one homeowner is 55 or over and NO children
under 21 will be living in the house. These are Federal and State
guidelines so stop your crap in blaming the HOA.
I had read of a somewhat similar case (except that the child in question
was a high-school senior whose sole surviving parent had died. The
grandparents were the only family members with whom she could live
without having to change schools part-way through her senior year). A
while later, at a "Senior Expo," I asked the manager of a senior-housing
complex what would have happened in his complex in such circumstances.
He said that since they get special tax (property tax?) breaks for
senior-only housing, he would have had to evict the girl also.
I am no fan of HOAs and live in a community without one, but can we be
sure that in the case in question there are not some other relevant factors?
I'm not fond of HOAs and condos, either. Equal dislike of spoiled,
trashy, rude and undisciplined kids. We have one teen brat who often
tosses her fast food trash in the parking lot or atrium. Other adult
children who have been drunks and druggies, having loud arguments,
letting pets run loose, trashing former residence, etc. There are very
good reasons for people to live in seniors-only homes - one is that
people who have never had kids don't want them around. Understandable
and a good choice for some people. The hoodlum element also prey on
elderly, which is an issue I have only recently begun to contemplate.
In the traditionionally styled "bedroom communities",
it is well known that there is a cyclical pattern to burglaries,
other home invasions. The young ones get to their teen years,
are bored or looking for different "family figures", and get into
the "gansta" stuff. Then they get old enough to get away from
home, and they mature and settle down, or they take their
behaviour elsewhere, generally to an area that allows rental.
Eliminate the presence of the kids, and considerably reduce
the crime rate in an area. Forbid rentals, and reduce it again.
Senior development are design as stated for senior
if they permit one family then they most permit other
I am sure you are familiar with word discrimination.
you may fill that you have been discriminated but apparently
it is just apposite.
This people both property specifically to live in peace for remain part
of they lives and now you want them to loose that freedom for your benefits,
You don't think that you are just little selfish.
In my opinion you are more then that, so please don't complain
You are not making you self look good.
As for me I live in north NJ in most expensive area in country,
if parents of this child want to bring it up let them move up here,
I am sure state of NJ would love that.
I didn't expect such a long thread with such emphatic advocates on all sides
of the issue.
Still, the topic generated some thoughtful analysis, so it wasn't a total
waste of time. Amazingly everybody's in agreement that HOAs are the spawn of
Satan and those who sit on HOA boards should be cremated and the ashes
Take no chances.
Ah, yes. At the beginning of the last century a compendium of set theory was
produced (set theory at that time was the foundation for all of
The author got a brief note from Bertrand Russel. It was too late to change
the book - the author was editing the page proofs) so he added a preface to
the tome (paraphrasing):
"One hopes that the reader never experiences the devastation visited upon
his life's work by the asking of a single question."
The question that Bertrand Russel asked?
Here's the popularized version:
Given: There is a male barber in a small town that shaves every man in the
town who does not shave himself.
Question: Who shaves the barber?
There are three possibilities:
* He shaves himself,
* He isn't shaved at all.
* Someone else shaves him.
All three possibilities violate the given condition.
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