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Feral cats are a different story, but allowing a pet cat to run loose outdoors is just as bad as allowing a child to run loose. Oops, lots of lazy parents do that too these days.
Cheri
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wrote:

You probably have people thinning out the feral cat population out in the country. They are still a pest. Florida DEP regularly traps them out of the wildlife preserves and turns them over to animal control. Animal control will not adopt out a feral cat.
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

or a male cat wooing a female in heat...
I ran one off one night I hit him dead on from about 15 yards that's how mad I was
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Cheri wrote:

My cat shows no interest at all in going outside. Hunting mice in the garage is about as close to outside as she wants to get.
Pete C.
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but
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Glad to hear it Pete, I'm sure your cat is well loved and cared for.
Cheri
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 08:52:56 -0800, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

Barn cats on farms are always loose, but they stay around the buildings. It's the stray dogs that COME HERE that cause the problems. My barn cats follow me around all the time when I am outside and they get lots of attention from me. Of course a few of them tend to get under my feet and sooner or later they learn that they WILL get stepped on. Especially when I am carrying hay bales, I cant see them down there. They always survive though, and hopefully learn their lesson. I did have one get kille when a horse stepped on it though. There is little I can do to stop that. Sometimes I think cats and dogs are suicidal. I had a cat dart out in front of my car the other night, on a back country gravel road. I was probably the only car that used that road in hours. I swear that cat was trying to get killed. I missed it by a couple feet when I slammed on my brakes. Really pissed me off too.....
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I had a cat dart out in front of my car

They do it all the time where I live. I think they're bored, and all get back together and have a good laugh about it. Like in the squirrel commercial.
Steve
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wrote:

I can say the same thing for some humans. In fact I have more respect for a dog than I do some humans.
-- Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
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Oren wrote:

Yes, particularly those humans who keep noisy, filthy, worthless dogs...
Pete C.
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So anyway, it's Tuesday. Is your useless animal control department back from the holiday?
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

No idea, all my neighbors have cats (and/or horses), no filthy dogs in the immediate area.
Pete C.
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Right answer to wrong question! :-) Have you yelled at the animal control idiots yet today?
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

No, I have not as I do not presently have an animal control problem. Perhaps check with Steve B. since he's the one reporting the disturbance.
Pete C.
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Oops. Sorry.
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"Pete C." wrote

Absolutely, they make the best Piata! They last longer when dangled by their tail, instead of their neck.
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Sheena wrote:

Our cat, (I say *ours* only because it lived here) was snatched up by coyotes. Nothing left but a bunch of fur in the front yard. What a relief, I can't even remember its name and its only been a couple of weeks. <eg> Now my two wonderful dogs get *all* the attention, (as God intended it).
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Sheena wrote:

Dogs are better for that, they last longer before spilling their "candy". Cats enjoy watching.
Pete C.
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I guess you didn't read the part that said they do this on a regular basis.
And please explain how people who are too brain dead to even provide a caregiver or shelter to a dog would work with all the warm and fuzzy suggestions you have.
You seem to be insinuating that this is my problem, and that I am the one who needs to get things straight.
Steve
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Steve, I must have missed the post that said they do this on a REGULAR basis. The post I read said that they were doing this and it was believed they were abandoned and in immediate danger,etc.
I agree, that barking dogs will absolutely drive you up the wall.
I do rescue and education work with our local goverment and teach others how to affect the laws in their areas too, and also cannot stand a constant barking dog.
My x neighbors across the street ( my bedroom window is at the front of my house also) had 4 dogs that they left outside 24/7 and those dogs barked constantly at everything.
I still do not know how the people slept at night but being the inconsiderate lowlifes they were, I quess they just turned out the world.
I did not sleep for the first 8 years I lived here and yes it will make you crazy. One I recommend you get a noise machine like I have. I have an alarm clock/combo noise machine that makes the sounds of the ocean/birds/white noise etc. That helped cover the noise of the dogs.
The problem is not the dogs, dogs being dogs, thats how they communicate. A bored, frightened cold hungry dog does what it knows to do. Its the same as us talking.
Ok that said, the dog and cat problems we complain about, ( running loose, barking etc) are NOT ANIMAL problems, they are PEOPLE PROBLEMS.
I suggest that IF this is an ongoing problem and you KNOW these dogs are not abandoned and in an emergency situation, I would contact first your animal control to see what the laws and ordinances concerning this are.
Some of these come under NOISE orndinances not specifically animal ordinances.
I had good success with neighbors excessionly noisey outside dogs by calling the police and saying that I am worried something bad is happening like a fire, or burgulary or something. ANd that is true, becuase you don't know what their carrying on about. After a couple visits by the police, they usually get the hint.
Now in my city, if we go thru the city/animal control per se, there is a requirement for a complaint that it is signed by 2 separate neighbors of the violation/complaint. That is to keep people from making life miserable for people that don't simply like and Animal Control and the courts from being swamped with petty personal problems.
The first suggestion is to ask you neighbors to please bring the dogs in at night so you can sleep at least.
Ear plugs, clock/noise machine
Call the city about noise ordinances. ALL have something.
If they dogs keep barking call the POLICE and tell them you are worried that there is something bad going on there. And its possible there IS! AND you don't have to give your name and ask to remain anonymous if you want.
Call animal control and your local Humane Society both.
Also if worse comes to worse, contact an attorney. YOU have rights too.
I feel your pain, but please don't be tempted to take it out on the dogs, they are the innocents in this war. BUT you might ask the neighbors if they want to find homes for them, becuase by the sounds of it, they don't really care about them at all anyway.
And as far as the others with the cruel, stupid, redneck, neanterthal methods, I wouldn't recommend it. It is now a felony crime in most if not all states to harm animals, and you can be found.
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Why is that a naegative assumption on Steve's part. It's actually a positive assumption that gives the owners the benefit of the doubt. That is, if they are stuck in Denver, how can they get home. There were literally thousands of people stuck at the Denver airport who wanted to be someplace, but couldn't go there for days.
This doesn't seem like a big point either way except it shows how people, once they are in a critical mode, can criticize anything, even for bad reasons, even reasons opposite what the facts show.
AFAICT, though, Steve has never said where the dogs are. Are they in the house, in the yard, fenced in yard, tied to a tree, a trolley? ??
So I have no comment on the dog situation itself.

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