Kurt Ullman, DerbyDad03, N8N, Tegger & Bob Villa wrote
Not necessarily. It's much easier to infect a machine with a virus through
a newsreader like Outlook Distress than it is reading via Google.
Given that Google sucks and I can't find a message that I wanted to respond
to about Reagan's Alzheimer's disease and how such diseases manifest
themselves very slowly and intermittently at first. He could have easily
had serious symptoms YEARS before an official diagnosis and everything I've
read indicates that's precisely what happened with him. Those closest to
him noticed something was "off" and could have simply interpreted it as
fatigue, stress and general old age.
I think those who've dealt with "creeping dementia" of any kind realize this
to be true. I have to wonder "did I really read it and Google can't find it
or am I misremembering the thread?" <sigh>
Grammar police intervention: "Given-up" with a hyphen is a compound
noun. You want "given up", no hyphen, which is a verb with a
Incorrect use of hyphens is one of the most frequent grammar sins.
Now go and sin no more <g>
On 7/1/2011 8:24 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Yepper. I miss the old days, when they didn't even realize they HAD a
Usenet feed. The kids today that run the LAN, smile indulgently and nod
a couple times when you talk about the old days of the pre-GUI world,
and then remember someplace else they need to be.
As I said in a previous post:
Whether or not a company wants someone using Usenet on company time is a
discussion for a different thread.
It is not relevant to the discussion of whether people use GG because
they are "too stupid or lazy" (as notbob claims) or that there is no
other good reason than blocked NNTP ports (as nate claims).
Using GG due to the lack of any other means of accessing Usenet is a
Of course it is relevant. You were using this as an illustration of "
a good reason". If the Company doesn't want to take the time and effort
to allow Usenet on their computers, then doing so using company
resources is hardly a good reason for having web-based version
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
It is absolutely *not* relevant to *this* discussion.
This discussion is related only to the reasons for using GG vs. a
newsreader client, not to whether it is proper to access Usenet via
nate stated that there is no other "good reason" to use GG other than if
NNTP ports are blocked. NNTP ports aside, a "good reason" to use GG is
if there is no other method of accessing Usenet available. i.e. no
The reason why no other method is available does not enter into the
discussion as to whether or not there is a good (read: valid) reason to
use GG vs. a newsreader client. The mere fact that there is no other
method available is the only relevant fact in determining whether there
is a valid reason to use GG vs. a newsreader client. I'll repeat that
last part to make sure my point is understood: "vs. a newsreader client".
I never said that "using company resources" is a good reason to use GG.
I said that not having access to any other method of accessing Usenet is
a good reason to use GG.
As I have said many times, any discussion as to whether accessing Usenet
while at work is using company resources improperly is a subject unto
itself and not related to whether or not there is a good reason to use
GG vs. a newsreader client.
Ours also locks out GG, and they just recently realized they had
accidently UNlocked commercial web-mail interfaces for a while. USB
ports are also locked out, and they took away the DVD burning software.
I have to do a ten-step voodoo to be able to burn even a simple CD.
They make my PC any more secure, the only thing it will be good for is a
doorstop. They may as well put us all back on dumb terminals.
That's almost humorous!
The locked down version of IE8 that we have has trouble accessing
certain external sites. Since I need those sites to service my clients
(well, just one big one actually) they gave me an exception and
However, since all of the internal apps were written for IE, they don't
work on FF, and I have to switch back and forth between 2 browsers to
get my work done.
Those that have never worked in a locked down, pre-configured, corporate
environment, especially those that like to go a little deeper than the
casual user, should really count their blessings. Knowing that there are
certain capabilities and features lying just out of reach can be rather
They allow us USB sticks and CD/DVD writers but the Internet is locked down
tighter than Gitmo (so tight it often doesn't work at all). Not that it's
done any good, the idiots still get malware. I don't work for the government,
This part of the thread makes a good point.
My wife works for a bank. In the interests of security, they've locked down
just about everything on all employees' machines, including the ability to
change the desktop wallpaper. Installing programs is totally out of the
question. Port 80 is open, but any sites even remotely having to do with
messaging (Hotmail, Yahoo,) are blocked, as are any streaming sites and
just about everything else, it seems. Webmail needs to be specifically
enabled, and few are deemed qualified to receive it. My wife has never
tried to use Google Groups, so I don't know if they allow that.
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