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...and not even then. (my wife was hit by an uninsured ditz on the way home from work tonight).

...and you have to pay taxes even if you don't.

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time, they only had single shot muzzle loading firearms. The subject of the other freedoms have not changed as much. <<<<<<<<
is that so?
Two hundred years ago the village idiot could stand in the town square & spout nonsense to passersby.
Now we have TV & the internet..........
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DGDevin wrote:

Absolutely and positively not so. Spies, saboteurs, guerrillas, and the like are most emphatically NOT soldiers and, if captured on the battlefield, are NOT entitled to POW status. This has been part of the Rules of Warfare for millennia and is codified in the various treaties and conventions on the conduct of war.

During WWII literally hundreds of thousands of German and Italian POWs were confined on U.S. soil and a significant number of them were U.S. citizens (think dual citizenship). Not a one was tried as a traitor. Further, not a one ever had access to U.S. civilian courts. (Crimes committed within a POW camp - theft, murder, etc. - were handled by courts martial.)
Point is, citizenship is irrelevant for POW status, charging as a traitor, or detention and execution as an unlawful enemy combatant.

Why are you having trouble understand that it's not simply one or the other? There's a completely separate catagory, defined by the Rules of War, codified in the IV Geneva Convention and the Military Commissions Act of 2006. Those so defined are neither fish nor fowl; they are rodents.
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Case in point is what the beloved patron saint of liberals, FDR, did. In 1942 a German plot to sabotage and bomb the USA was discovered and 8 guys were arrested on US soil. Two of them were US citizens. All were tried before a military tribunal, convicted and received the death sentence. FDR commuted the death penalty for two who had cooperated. The others were dispatched in short order. From arrest to execution took all of 3 months.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pastorius
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snipped-for-privacy@optonline.net wrote:

Damn! I didn't know it took that long! Liberals were active back then too.
Major Andre was captured by Continental forces on September 23, 1780 and was executed by firing squad, under General Washington's orders, on October 2nd (six business days later)
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Unbelievable nonsense on an issue that has zero bearing. Everyone within the sound of my voice knows that when Nixon accepted the pardon, he was, in essence, admitting that the broke laws. He was perfectly free to reject it and stand trial, had he chosen to do so. And the pardon did allow the country to move on, instead of remaining occupied with a trial that could have lasted years.....
Since you want to bring up pardons, what about the pardon by Clinton of Marc Rich? He was on the FBI most wanted list, living in Switzerland, wanted for tax evasion, among other crimes. During the Jimmy Carter days of loony energy policy, he decided to tax "old" oil at rates far higher than "new" oil. Marc Rich figured out how to put old oil in one end of a pipe, pump it around, and when it came out the other end, it was new oil. When caught, he fled the country. Now, thanks to his ex-wife greasing the works with lots of money and contributions to the Clinton library, he's pardoned. How does that pardon sit with you?
And back to your original claim, pointing out that Congress passed a law giving imunity to ISPs for any help they give in turning over information does zippo to prove your claim that the USA is actively listening in on all domestic calls.
As KRW pointed out, it was done so that they would be shielded from frivoulous lawsuits, (think ACLU), on behalf of some skunk who's bomb making was interrupted after he came onto the FBIs radar map and they got further info from the ISP. You have a problem with that?
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