Gas water heater safety


I am thinking of replacing my electric water heater with a gas heater. The heater is in my basement. How safe are these? I'd hate to have my house blow up because of a gas leak in the basement :-p
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I think it was "Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> who stated:

They're very dangerous. I've never had anything but gas water heaters in my 32 years of home ownership, and none of them has had any problems . . . yet. But it could happen any time!
Get it installed by someone who knows what they're doing and don't worry about it, would be my advice . . . .
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Do you have any gas appliances in your house now? The odds of your house blowing up because of a gas appliance in the basement is about as great as your house blowing up because of a gas appliance in your kitchen.
If you don't have any gas appliances in your house now, I assume you don't have gas run to the house. Have you looked into the expense of having that done?
Ook wrote:

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Thanks to all that responded. I do have gas - gas furnace in basement, and gas stove in kitchen. I seldom use the gas furnace (wood heat :) ). My water heater is several years old, and located at the opposite corner of the basement from the bathroom. I want to install a gas water heater next to the gas furnace, which is under the bathroom, so that there is quick hot water to the bathroom. Right now, the kids go to the kitchen to wash their hand because they are tired of waiting for the water to get hot.
Are there any issues with gas volume delivery for when all three applicances are on - gas oven, gas heater, gas stove? I think there is a one inch flex pipe feeding gas into the basement from the meter. Is that big enough?

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Ook wrote:

probably not big enough, do you hve a flue for venting the tank?
you can add a RECURCILATING PUMP to the hot line from the tank to provide instant hot water if you want, if the existing location is more convenient otherwise
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"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote in message

Sounds like the typical residential size. It should be able to handle it, but do a Google search and you can find out better what is needed for each and the total feed. http://www.metrokc.gov/health/plumbing/gaspiping.htm
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"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote in message

There are many millions of them around the world. Yes, every year there is a house that has a fire from a gas leak, but there are also people electrocuted and killed falling down the steps.
Proper installation and it is trouble free. As in any household, you don't want flammable chemicals in the basement that can leak and get fumes to a gas or oil fired appliance. Or an electric spark.
My present house does not have gas available, but I'd have it in a second if possible.
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Ook wrote:

I've owned a house for 27years that has a gas water heater installed in a small basement (really just a furnace / water vault)
No problems yet.....I'll bet gas water heater installations in garages are more dangerous because of gasoline & other flammables.
Some states do not require the 18" off the floor installation for water heaters in garages.
cheers Bob
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BobK207 wrote:

very safe if theres no chimney hanbdy you will need a forced vent thru wall model and 120 volts for exhaust fan.
you will save money gas heating is nearly always cheaper than electric plus recovery will be awesome.
its wonderful provided gas is available at your home
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"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> writes:

Anecdotally, there are a shitload of these things installed, and I can't remember the last time I heard anyone dying from something attributed directly to a gas water heater. Gas leak explosions, you hear about from time to time, you do hear of carbon monoxide fatalities as well.
If you already have gas appliances in your house, so long as you follow recommendations of maintenance, have professional installation by a qualified plumber, they're no more dangerous than any other relatively small output gas appliance.
On a related note, starting a few days ago, it's now state law in IL to have a CO detector within 15 feet of every bedroom in a house that uses fossil fuel for heating, cooking or hot water heating. This should underscore that CO detectors in sleeping quarter are something folks are taking very seriously.
Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net /
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"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote in message

particularly good troll. But I have to ask, why would you be jerk like this?
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Ook wrote:

A small leak in the basement is not a likely problem for a natural gas device. Natural gas rises and will flow out of the basement. The basement is a problem for small leaks of propane gas as it is heavier than air and tends to collect in the basement until it gets enough to light off.
Overall gas has a very good safety record and nearly all problems are the result of poor (non-code) instillation or maintenance.
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Ook wrote:

check if you can get OFF PEAK electric serivce in your area....
the cost of OFF PEAK electricity can be competetive with gas
Mark
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Mark wrote:

well then your limited to making hot water at off peak times........
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On a related note: Are tankless water heaters significantly more/less safe than the regular ones.
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On a related note: Are tankless water heaters significantly more/less safe than the regular ones.
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com writes:

Guessing they'd be close, if not a bit less safe. On one hand, there's not a big tank surface area to leak, on the other it's still got a water supply connected to it. The big difference I'd have t othink is that, when they're on they burn a shitload of gas--extremely high output, and also need a lot of combustion air. I might guess that it'd be a lot easier for someone to screw up the installation of a tankless heater versus the ole tried and true tanks, for a number of reasons.
-- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net /
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snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:

tankless robably less safe, large gas supply with connection to power supply.
plus regulaR TANKS HAVE BEEN TIME TESTED FOR GENERATIONS unlike the newer tankless........
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