I've got a 12x20 foot family room that already has gas logs in the
fireplace. The fireplace is suburbia standard-issue... flush with the
chimney brick and glass doors.
A few years ago we had an ice storm that knocked out power for almost there
days. Despite having the fireplace going all that time, the temperature in
the room never got above 55 deg. The fireplace damper was open, since the
logs came with the house and I'm not sure if they are the vented kind or
I'd like to get a set of gas logs that will both look nice and actually put
out usable heat. My question is which type -- I'm leaning towards veneted,
but want to get a set that will not send most of the heat up the chimney.
I've read where there is a partially-vented type. Has anyone had any
experience with those?
Also, any brands to recommend?
I would never buy an unvented type. If they are not acceptable for a
bedroom they are not acceptable for my house.
The best product out there energy wise is an insert with ceramic glass. If
you decide to go with an insert, make sure it has ceramic glass and not
tempered glass. Ceramic glass can take the heat and stays closed all the
time. It has double walls internally and a fan that draws in air into a box
separate from the combustion. We had gas logs before and we love the
insert. Plus it is zero clearnance. Only disadvantage is that fan won't
work when power goes down. You still get heat but no circulation. It
lights without power with the flick of a switch but circulation won't have
fan power. 2 stainless steel tubes go up the chimney. One for fresh air
and the other for exhaust. No fumes get into the house. According to the
literature, it is as efficient as some furnaces.
===Oh good grief, Bubba--Get a grip. We've had a vent-free for 8 years now and
have awakened every morning just fine (and we live in a very tight newer
also been very economical. We use it as our main heat source.
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:10:20 GMT, email@example.com (Lawrence
Exactly like a gas stove. I have one. It has spark ignition and right
above the stove is the exhaust fan that vents OUTSIDE. I dont run the
stove without it. I dont heat with space heaters or Kerosene heaters
either. Those homes smell like shit.
Dont you remember going into your grandmas house years ago when she
had a stove with 5 constantly burning pilots? Did you ever wonder why
her house always smelled "funny/different"? That wasnt her pissed on
bathroom floor you smelled.
I see that posted all the time. Why?
I have ventless. I have had them for 12 years now. I have 2 CO detectors in
the same room as the fireplace and they have NEVER gone off. I don't get any
off-smells either (except if I let the tank run out and then that is
The way I look at it, I'm getting almost 100% efficiency because all of the
heat is staying in the house and not going up a chimney.
Not saying you are wrong. Just don't understand why people say it. If they
were even SLIGHTLY dangerous, do you think companies would take the risk of
selling them. ESPECIALLY in this sue-happy world we live in today?
You might want to go to coexperts.com and you might understand why
your CO detector doesnt alarm. I hope you also read the first two
warning pages of your owners manual for your unvented appliance/s.
So THAT'S why my penis fell off!!!!!
Hey! I never knew that. What the hell! Who reads the instructions anyway???
It does say not to install in a bedroom or bathroom (why a bathroom?). The
room that it IS installed in is 24 X 30 and we usually never close off the
rest of the house. We also never run it all night (just a couple hours in
the evening). Maybe that is why we haven't had any problems.
I think I will start cracking a window.
All of a sudden I feel dizzy......
I'll pour myself another one....
There are three types, vented, unvented, and direct vent.
Vented - most heat goes up the stack, you can get exchangers to try to
extract some but they are not all that effective in my view.
Unvented - heat stays in the room but they deplete oxygen and create
water vapor in the room, make your windows sweat and I don't think
most codes allow them in rooms where you sleep.
Direct vent - uses outside combustion air so no oxygen depletion nor
CO2 formation so no sweating, however this type has a permanently
closed glass door when operating. Has good heating quality, but
easiest and least costly installation is on an exterior wall.
For Vented I would recommend any of the brands made by Hargrove
Manufacturing, only because I know the owners and they are good
people. Don't know about unvented or direct vent.
for emergency use remember to open the kitchen window an inch or two
and turn on the unvented natural gas oven with the oven door closed and
battery operated CO detectors tested and working.
your existing fireplace may just be rated as decorative.
vented natural gas heat is always required to avoid health problems
inserts are made in many different sizes, you'll want to get the
largest BTU that will fit into the fireplace opening size.
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