Yesterday my husband had some contractors install replacement exterior
French doors to our patio. I didn't see the doors until after the
guys had left and noticed that the door was plumb, but the walls
aren't--and worse, I think they are slighty twisted. (The top of the
right side of the door is 1/4" farther out than the wall and the
bottom recessed 1/8" from the wall. The left side is 1/8" recessed at
the top and flush at the bottom.) The doors that were on previously
were badly damaged by the previous owner's dog and had a gap between
them at the bottom which we assumed was from the dog and never thought
about it being because the doors were not plumb. They didn't swing
open or closed and latched just fine. Did the contractors install
this improperly by not installing in on the same plane as the wall?
If they installed it correctly, how can we put mouldings up that look
Some clarification needed here. Are you telling us you live in a house
with tilted ( not plumb) walls? Did you determine what was plumb or
not with a level? Are you using the word 'plumb' to describe that part
of your structure as perfectly perpendicular? These answers would bear
upon solving your problem. HTH
Yes they did the right thing. They did what we call
"cheating" the door into the opening. You hang the door
plumb, then you have to work your trim to fit. If you aren't
experienced at it, it can seem difficult, but it really isn't.
It is too difficult too explain over the internet, but you
will have to either remove some of the drywall from the sides
and top (if it is too close to the jamb) and overcut your
miters so that the corners fit together kind of like crown
The other option is to rabbet the backside of the trim.
If you can't understand these concepts, then you will probably
have to call a professional. I can do it easily, but
explaining it is another thing entirely.
This site sort of explains it:
Indeed, the new doors should be hung 'plumb'.
Otherwise known as: Two wrongs don't make a right.
That they didn't custom fit the trim is also understandable, no
doubt this would be an extra expense which would need prior approval
and they may not have the tools/skill/time to do it properly anyway.
I suppose the correct thing for them to do after they saw the
situation was to ask if you wanted it 'fixed', but if they did
the work unattended (not a good idea for the homeowner) they
had little choice.
If the doors are not installed plumb, they will tend to open or close by
themselves. i.e. If you have a door open a "crack", it will not stay put,
but close or open further depending on the slant.
And this can be a royal pain. So I would rather have the doors plum so they
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