I do some heating. Maybe I can help? Please provide
some more detail, and I'll get back to you in fifteen
years (grin here).
Did you mention in another post, about how there is
only a couple volts across R and W, while the furnace
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:03:18 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
Whenever a heat related appliance breaks, I save the thermostat, but
I've lost track of which are for heating and which are for fans.
Instead I dug out the original round Honeywell thermostat, model
CT87B***, and it doesn't seem to be working -- judging by the ohmmeter
I connected to it -- even though it was when I took it off the wall. I
had put a 2-conductor wire to the Red and White screws and when I set
the thermostat to heat, and hold it vertically, and set it to 80^,
when the house is 70, and I put an ohmmeter on the two wires, nothing
happens. It's still infinite.
***I think. No model number on the stat. But I doubt they spent more
for the stat than they had to when they built the house. 109 houses
all with the same heating and cooling. Mine was in neither the first
batch nor the last. The screws are outlined by colored lines. Two
of them appear to be outlined in Red, but there seems to be an R next
to one and an O next to the other.
It's easy to find instructions, but hard to find a detailed schematic
that goes beyond the baseplate. Tomorrow I will attempt to draw my
own, but there are a lot of metal traces on the base plate
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:23:11 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
And I tried setting to cool, and turning the stat the other direction
in each case, but always infinite.
Thanks. Because of the 'until' clause, that makes more sense. It
still implies the thermostat is broken, even though it worked fine
when I took it off, 32 years ago.
Now that a day has gone by, I've forgotten what all my measurements
were. I should have written them down. I will next time, if
replacing the thermostat doesn't fix everything. And I'm so sleepy
all the time even after a good night's sleep.
You are one of the few polite people on
this list, you big stinky poop head idiot.
I enjoy your common sense answers, you
Of course, I'm less polite than you, some
days. Hope you understnd, pea brain. ;)
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
There's no sense in rushing into things. I bought my present cave when
it got too cold to live comfortably in the back of my pickup. I figured
it was cheaper than paying rent all winter in a tight rental market and
I'd move on in the spring. That was 26 years ago...
Some things start as trial, but end up working.
In the housing situation, I bought a mobile home,
figured to get a real house some day. Twenty year
later, the economy is tragic, and I'm in the same
Other factors like lack of money can have effect.
Can you turn power off and measure the resistance of the contacts when held
gently and then forcefully closed??? The resistance should be a fraction
of an ohm, essentially the same value as when the two probes of your ohmmet
er/voltmeter are touching each other directly.
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 19:20:05 -0800 (PST), firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Good idea. The thermostat is in a location I've made inaccessible.
I've hired Lewis and Clark, and Admiral Byrd, to make a path to it.
And as soon as I get there, 2 or 3 days**, I'll do just what you say.
**Admiral Byrd is still in the South Pole (or the North Pole, I can
never remember) and he's trapped by a giant flock of penguins, and he
says it will take him a couple days to get here. Lewis and Clark say
that Sakajaweia (sp?) is pregnant again and they both refuse to leave
This evening after 8 years, I finally moved the phone line from the
window to a hole in the floor.
I had had intermittent problems with the interior wiring. The jacks
nearest the indoor phone connection worked, but not some others.
Plus my computer was upstairs and it seemed a good idea to make the
first stop from the NID the computer, so muliple connections wouldn't
lower the speed. So I ran a wire from my office to the bedroom next
to it, out the 2nd floor window, down to the NID. A year later I
tried one more time to fix the interior connections and by golly,
everything was fine. I used that for a couple more years until it
failed again, and this time I switched to the window wire with no
plans to go back.
I was planing to drill a hole through the window frame, but something
must have held me back. A month ago it occurred to me I could drill
through the bedroom floor** and come out in the overhang (the second
floor overhangs the first by 23 inches in the front, by about 14 in
the back.) and it would look better, stay drier, and not flop around
in the wind like it's been doing for 6 years.
**But I actually drilled up from under the overhang. That way I knew
where it would come out outside, but I didn't worry enough about where
it woudl come out inside! I had forgotten about all the boxes on the
far side of the bed, but luckily, I didn't drill into any of them.
Instead the bit came out under the bed! So how was I going to run
the wire down the hole? I thought about moving the bed but there
was no room. Thought about lifting up the mattress and the box spring
to lean against the wall, or against the wall with the window, or the
opposite walls. All bad ideas.
How about crawling under the bed with a flashlight with the mattress
and spring resting on my head? Another bad idea.
So went downstairs, took a 4-foot drill bit, threaded some button-hole
thread through the hole in the stem, and pushed that up the hole. Had
substantial trouble finding the upper hole but when I did, I rested
the drill bit on some vines or the thermometer bracket.
Then went upstairs, lay face down on bed, pulled out a couple feet of
the button-hole thread and tied it to something bigger than the 1/4"
hole, and cut the thread from the bit.
Then downstairs to lower the bit and disconnect the phone wire.
Then upstairs to reel in the phone wire through the window, wrap the
ends together and around the thread, put some tape on the end to make
the thread come out at the point, and then try to push the thing in
the hole in the floor. I couldn't find the hole, even though the
thread led to it. (The thread kept getting twisted around the wire.)
Downstairs again, rolled the extra thread on the spool and left it
Upstairs, the weight of the spool was enough to pull in the spare
thread, so I could find the hole in the floor. The 4-conductor wire
is actually smaller than the hole, and without the white sheath, it's
even smaller, and the four wires wrapped together came to a point, and
the tape had barely any thickness, but I still had trouble pushing the
wire through the hole. But i got it and I pushed an inch or two in.
Downstairs again and pulled on the thread to get the wire to come
down. It was stuck at first, but tugging just a little broke it free
and it found and came through the bottom hole easily. Pulled about
10 feet throug, enough to attach to the NID, but needed a foot or two
more to do it right.
Upstairs, again I had to lie face-down on the bed and reach under it
to work, and the wire turned out to be stuck under a box under the
bed, and whenever I lay on the bed, it put much of my weight on the
box so I coudlnt' pull the wire. But from the foot of the bed I was
able to pull it out from the box (it was only under the box because I
pulled from outside.)
So tomorrow I'll pull out another foot or two, close the door to the
NID and caulk the hole in the overhang.
An 8-year project completed.
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