I worked for a guy who went in for some differences in opinion on his
taxes. The first full day in jail, his credit card company called for
him and I told them that he was "out of town for some time". ;-) After
some prying, they told me there had been over $1,000 charged to it in
half a day, all for gasoline. I guess someone working at the jail was
taking and selling credit cards. I told them that he isn't in that city
where the gasoline was purchased, but they wouldn't cancel his card
until they spoke to his wife. I didn't know how to get hold of her that
day so I called back and in a very poor sounding high pitched voice,
acted as the Mrs. and gave them permission to cancel the card.
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When they transferred me to the military brig in Charleston, SC, they took
all monies, cards, etc... They created me an account that I could use at the
commissary to buy smokes (I don't smoke though), clothing, etc... Since it
was the military, we had our names sewn on our cami's, so any other "cards"
or identification wasn't necessary. They might issue cards in a civilian
camp. All military brigs, except Leavenworth, are country clubs for "bad"
military personnel. If there would've been a tennis court there, I'm sure
they would've made us pay rent.
I think you'd get as good or better sound deadening by filling with the wall
cavities with granular mica (the little light colored bits in potting soil).
It would flow nicely
through a small hole and a granular fill would kill the sound better than
foam board, concrete, etc.
As this is likely a partition (otherwise, how can he get to both sides to
reinforce the drywall to prevent bulging, as he indicates he can prepare
for) and is a partition supposing temperature control on both sides
(otherwise, it would be insulated with something that would prevent
completely filling the voids with concrete, even if saturated and compressed
. . . what a mess!), it must not be a party wall, as it would be between
adjacent apartments, etc.
Therefore, it is likely a partition between adjacent rooms within the OP's
own abode. Let us assume, then, the OP's spouse (I assume the OP is a male,
but we don't really know. Only a male would even think he could make the
improvements he proposes, but perhaps it the OP is a female.), whether male
or female is entertaining someone other than the OP, himself or herself, in
the room on the other side. That likely would bother the OP. Even if
he/she might enjoy watching, hearing only certainly would be frustrating.
And, if he really is bothered, maybe he can't describe what it is bothering
him, despite not posting his/her identity, because prying eyes within
his/her own household may well see his post, causing undesired
ramifications. Or, the OP's signature may be known amongst his/her other
I believe it is far more fun for us to hypothesize than to have known the
actual cause of the OP's frustrations. I'm confident we will be sorely
disappointed should we actually learn the truth. Aren't we usually?
I mean, if we were told in the original post, rather than the OP excusing
him/herself, would this thread even have started? Perhaps, but not so
Yeah, mine too; however, not too much of this thread has been about
actually resolving the OP's "problem". I'm sure that in your profession as
in mine, our problems and our solutions are genuine, "serious" problems . .
. and even then we sometimes escape to the inane for a moment or two, unless
you are a funeral director.
(And, even if you are, there are those moments . . . )
If I read your comment correctly... how can one be so certain that my sound
transmission (i.e. noise) problem is not genuine or "serious" (...my 'off
the wall' --yes, pun intended-- trial balloon "solution", notwithstanding)?
Most likely you are trying to block one of two types of noise. High
pitch or low pitch. Low would be base drums, base guitar, stomping,
etc.. Most others would be high.
Each type is attacked differently. Cheapst way to block low would be
with lead sheets or cement board attached to one side of the walls.
You can always do the other side if you must later on.
For other common sounds you would need to block air flow between
rooms. So if two outlets share the same stud cavity, one must be
disconected and blocked off. Fill the wall with foil foam by scoring
and snappin sheets just like with drywall.
When putting drywall back on one side that was removed use generous
amounts of construction adhesive between the studs and drywall. This
is one of the best uses for adhesive. It is rubbery so it reduces
sound transmission. The drywall on that side will no longer act like a
To the contrary, Guest . . .
. . . I'm sure your problem is serious. In fact it is a common problem.
That's sorta the point I was making: without the many, many responses that
went well outside of being serious, there would not be much of this thread
remaining. Your trial balloon, however, did prompt some of those less than
sincere responses. It was the balloon, Guest, not the problem. And, to
you, I'm sure the balloon was serious as well, being a measure to illustrate
your complete frustration.
Take some comfort in being with lots of company. Many have tried solutions
beyond your or my immaginations. Some may have even worked, but there is
such a thing as economic feasibility.
Anyway, thanks for providing some fodder.
Exactly! Though this is indeed MY house and should be able to tell it's
occupants to not be noisy, I co-own it (and due to recent circumstances, now
share it) with a previously estranged family member and her difficult 20
year old son (who thinks HE owns the place) who's 'condo', er bedroom, is
right next to my quarters... <g>
Well it was, in fact, short-term economics that inspired me to think of it.
My original plan was to use 1/8" thick lead sheeting (cheaper and 2x heavier
than other, non-lead, mass loaded sheet products sold this purpose, but
still costly) along with lots of drywall (and liberal use of silicone), plus
decoupling measures (e.g. staggered-stud frame and/or resilient channel,
etc.), plus possibly either sprayed cellulose or Homosote board inside the
wall spaces. But my financial situation suddenly changed and I faced the
disappointing realization that I could not immediately afford even the lead
sheeting, which alone (covered by a layer of drywall) might afford some
immediate noise relief. In the meantime, more holes were being punched
through the drywall on my nephews side of the wall. (He does this whenever
he has an argument with his girlfrind, which is quite often.) So then, in
my dreams (that is, between sleep interruptions) I had fantasies of having a
wall composed of a solid mass of depleted uranium or U-238, a metal harder
than steel with a mass density greater than lead (used by the military to
form the super strong armor-plating on the remarkable Abrams M-1 tank, among
other uses). When I awoke I thought to myself, "Crazy dreams. U-238! Ha,
ha, ha, ha... I don't even have access to 'civilian grade' lead sheeting
right now. Oh but just a minute! Come to think of it, I
do have these bags of cement in my garage. I wonder ..." <g>
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