Facebook Has Ruined The Internet

From: https://medium.com/challenging-the-status-quo/facebook-has-ruined-the-internet-388b8f94ee8a
Facebook Has Ruined The Internet
In one particular way, at least
I’m going “old fogy” on this one
The Internet, more specifically the World Wide Web, used to be about something much different than it does in the “post-Facebook” era.
I suppose others have spoken up about this in other ways, like Anil Dash for example. But my main point centers around Facebook’s “Like” button.
The Like button has turned us all into brand advocates, into data sharing societies (notice the plural), and allows Facebook to capitalize on that. It allows Facebook to “share our sharing” with companies.
Some people are OK with that, and I must admit, at first I was too.
I’m no longer OK with that.
Don’t get me wrong, Google and other data monoliths are also part of this camp in certain ways … but Facebook ruined the culture of the Internet in several key ways that, when combined (not in individual parts), make it unique:
1. Walled garden. You play in Facebook, by their rules. 2. By encouraging a lazy “Like” culture … where the Web itself was about the comment, the dialogue, the one to many conversation. 3. By trying to be “everything” … the Web already was everything we needed, we didn't need Facebook’s “rules” for operating digitally.
We lost the Web, the valuable version of the web.
The web was meant to be open, not closed. Facebook is closed. The “Like” button in particular closed the final loop, the psychological one.
The web wasn't meant to be an easy, plug ‘n’ play, lazy type of media. Facebook’s Like button made our thoughts convenient, one-click, bite-sized … and also turned our thoughts into leverage for their shareholders.
The Web itself isn't going to take your thoughts and leverage them into profits.
Now, before you start thinking this is an argument against user-generated content, it isn't. It’s also not an argument against using the Web for commercial purposes.
I just think that, as a society, we have to change our models and definition of how we profit from using the Web. Whoring out users data for profit, specifically in the context of the data you don’t publish yourself, needs to be dropped as a business model.
I know, I know, forget that right? Big-data is already so pervasive we can’t do anything about it … right?
I don’t think so. I want my Web back, the one where sharing actually dominated the conversation, not private data-arbitrage. I haven’t even gotten into “Like-fraud” or “Like-spamming” (as Anil points out in the video I linked to).
The “Like” button is a “data-arbitrage” button. To me, it destroys the true value of the Web for our society. I would rather (and do) share what I like myself, without Facebook’s help.
NOTE: The Like button led to +1, which is also rather lazy … but the originator gets blamed. Tweet buttons, to me, perform a minimum function of sharing a conversation … but Twitter isn’t off the hook all the way either.
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snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote:

I haven't given it as much thought as you, but I agree in spirit. That's one of the reason's I like Usenet--the conversations. I don't use Facebook and I am careful not to click many "like" buttons because I don't want companies to pigeonhole (?) my demographics even as much as they are already able to. Related to your thoughts, there are alot of web page groups, where people pay each other empty compliments, for the "sake of encouragement", so much so that they are almost devoid of content. Those users bring the Facebook mentality with them, I think. Anyway, good luck with your "mission" (to make the world a better place!)
Cheers, Bill
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On 7/13/2016 6:22 PM, Bill wrote:

I agree with comments but, in fact, my home page of my browser is set to Facebook. Like it or not a lot of family and friends post there. I am careful of what I click on mainly from fear of viruses. Daughter-in-laws with smart phones will post pictures and videos direct from phone. I have one friend that seldom emails and actually prefers Facebook interaction.
Twitter, I have no interest in. Who cares to hear when Lady Gaga or some other famous person takes a dump?
A dumb cell phone is good enough for me.
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BTW, it didn't ruin the internet anymore than cable ruined TV.
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On 7/13/2016 4:55 PM, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote:

Many corporations monitor their employees Facebook and other surf habits. Every 3-5 years they use the usage statistics to cull the herd. The little millennials are so stupid sometimes.
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On 07/13/2016 03:55 PM, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote:
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And I really DISLIKE what Facebook has done to the word "like". It used to be a good word.
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What gets me, is that FB does not have a DISLIKE button. It's very unbalanced. In the brief time I used FB, I saw many more things that deserved a THUMBS DOWN, than a "Like".
Actually, FB should offer three choices: THUMBS UP THUMBS DOWN MIDDLE FINGER UP :)
And since the FB logo is a lower case "f", and since that logo has polluted the entire planet, I now understand what they mean about NOT using the "F-WORD" in public..... (The REAL F-WORD is FACEBOOK). You cant even drive down the street without seeing that "f" logo on some sign, billboard, pachaging, in a magazine, or newspaper, or flip on the tv and see it used repeatedly on the evening news.
The next time you see that "f' logo, consider this: Facebook is telling you to get "f"..ked.....
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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote :

? button. To me, it destroys the


You really should try to keep up...
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/technology/facebook-reactions/
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You really should try to keep up...
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/technology/facebook-reactions/

I'm repeatedly surprised by the passivity of people, though I suppose I shouldn't be. Millions of people let Zuckerberg own their social lives, track them online, show them ads, and limit the medium they use to contact friends. The deal repeatedly changes for the worse. Yet people just keep putting up with it.
People acept gmail spyware because they can't be bothered to figure out how to set up their email. They use Dropbox because they can't be bothered to figure out how to transfer files and do backup. They accept Windows 10 as a service, no longer owning what they do on their computers, because it's the easiest option.
Facebook hasn't ruined the Internet. People have come to see themselves as consumers rather than citizens, passively accepting an Internet that's mainly an entertainment service. None of the people diddling their Facebook has to do it. They choose to be Zuck's suckers.
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<pre wrap="">You really should try to keep up...
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People acept gmail spyware because they can't be bothered to figure out how to set up their email. They use Dropbox because they can't be bothered to figure out how to transfer files and do backup. They accept Windows 10 as a service, no longer owning what they do on their computers, because it's the easiest option.
Facebook hasn't ruined the Internet. People have come to see themselves as consumers rather than citizens, passively accepting an Internet that's mainly an entertainment service. None of the people diddling their Facebook has to do it. They choose to be Zuck's suckers.
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On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 8:50:13 PM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:

If you don't use it, why do you care?

Can you use client based email from any computer, anywhere, anytime without hauling around your own PC?
They use

I use it because it works automatically without me having to remember to do anything or taking the added time to do it. When I take a pic on my phone, I know it's backed up in the cloud and also available on my desktop PC. Seems like a great thing to me. IDK why it, like almost everything else, seems to trouble you.

You never owned any Windows product, you only had a license to use it.

What should we be doing? Rioting in the streets like BLM? Good grief.
BTW, I'm getting ready to install Win 10 before the free upgrade expires. Guess I'm forever damned now.
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 08:42:28 -0700, Oren wrote:

My PC barely meets the minimum requirements. I've decided to stick with Win7. My only hope is that after July 29 MS will stop trying to push the Win10 upgrade via WSUS.
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On 7/15/2016 12:31 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:

Best Buy told my wife her Win7 laptop would not take it but they keep bugging her.
I get tired of MS trying to intrude on my Win 10.
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Just decline the terms and conditions if it gets installed and it will revert back to original OS
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On 7/15/2016 3:42 PM, ChairMan wrote:

I've got it but the computer they may invade is my wife's. I had Win 8.1 and I think they just went and did it before I wanted it.
What irritates me most is I like the old time waster games and downloaded them as free aps from their store. Now they have pop up ads and want to hook you into playing games on line.
MS is doing a piss poor imitation of Apple and I hear their computers suck.
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On 7/15/2016 3:52 PM, Frank wrote:

I like Free Cell. I bought a copy of Pretty Good Solitaire from www.goodsol.com and put it on the three computers I use. One license give me use on many devices and many games.
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says...

Free Cell is boring. Spider Solitaire using four suits is much more challenging.
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On 2016-07-13 2:55 PM, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote:

Actually the "Internet" has been killed by whiny people who yap and bitch and moan about something they can simply not participate in.
Sheesh.
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:55:50 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@unlisted.moo wrote:

I was finally going to Like something, that I thought really deserved it, until I saw there was no Dislike button. Heck, I'm not going to participate in that.
Later I saw one place where one could retract his own previous Like, but that's not enough to satisfy me.
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