My mother has a 40+ year old cape cod style house which was reroofed for the
first time over existing older shingles about 5 years ago. (We were told at the
time that the roof was in very good shape for it's age, but did have some
cosmetic wearing of the shingles). The contractor that did the work has been
in business for over 30 years in our county and is very reputable. Had new
flashing and new gutters put on at the same time. The attic was finished by my
father about 35 years ago (2 bedrooms, 1 bath). There are three attic vents on
the east, west and north side of the house. There is also ventilation under
the overhang of the front door. The house was vinyl sided at the same time.
According to my mother, when the attic was finished off, my father used
"quality insulation, and plenty of it". She had the gutters cleaned about a
week before the storm hit here in the northeast over the weekend. The house
seems to have an excess of amount of really thick icicles compared to the
neighboring houses. The downspout nearest the flashing is totally ice incased.
The icicles are hanging over each downspout (4), and over the gutters as well,
forming running icicles down the length of the siding on the house in some
areas. When the thermostat is set at anything above 62, the upstairs bedrooms
and bath become very warm, yet the downstair rooms are comfortable to cool.
Any suggestions as to what the problem could be and how I go about correcting
it. I'm concerned that ice dams will form and she will have a boat load of
damage to the interior walls. I appreciate any help in pointing me in the
Icicles are caused by heat escaping through the roof, and melting the snow
out from under.
The solution is generally issullaton of the attic floor and roof, and also
My parents house had annual icicles. Dad was up on a ladder each year with
an ice pick. A friend and I blew in cellulose, and put in a couple vents on
the sidewall. No more icicles.
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If the gutters were clean, the water would run out. There has to be a
blockage for the water to dam in a gutter and then overflow. I can tell this
is true by looking out my picture window. And I just cleaned that gutter two
Not all the time. When the weather and other factors are just right, it
doesn't matter how clean your gutters are.
Consider freezing air temps, but sunshine on the roof or escaping heat from the
upper portion of a roof cause snow to melt and run down, often under a snow
cover, towards the gutter. Just before the just-above-freezing water reaches
the gutter, it hits the unheated, cooler portion of the roof, usually under
snow as well, and freezes there.
Eventually, this will "dam up" and some water may make it over this dam, until
it engulfs the gutter and forms iciales.
I don't know what type gutters you have that a dam can form that's high
enough to cause water to overflow them and run down their 3-4" (high) sides
but when mine overflow, you should bet something (Maple tree seed pods) is
blocking the outlet and it/they need cleaning.
Note the part about the WATER overflowing the side of the gutter; the side
beinf away from the house and this happens from about 12-14' away from the
gutter downspout. And if I had say a 1/2" high dam at the gutter downspout
connection, you're telling me the water won't dam up and overflow the
dam.... I think you need to rethink this theory. Or come over to my house
and I'll show you how it works when the gutters are clean at the downspout
connection to the gutter and how it oveflows the gutter when it's blocked.
Also, there are no icicels over the gutter, only those hanging on to the
outside of the gutter with water running off them, 'splain that away if you
Your gutters could be clean as a whistle, if the ambient temp is below
freezing, and there's 32 degree water slowly trickling off your roof into the
gutter, (either due to escaping heat or sunshine) it can and will freeze there,
especially after sunset it seems.
I didn't mean to say a dam builds up on top of the gutter.
I've not addressed the reason for the water coming off the roof, only the
Anyway, I thought I was replying to SN but.... I've lived in central PA and
in upstate NY and currently ten years in this house in central PA and I'm
61. I've cleaned many a gutter and lived through some really cold snowy and
freezing rain type weather. This is the first year any of my gutters have
overflowed with ice hanging off the outside. This is also the frst year I
haven't climber my old shaky 35 YO wooden step ladder to get up there to
clean out the Maple tree seed pod whirleygig things by hand and only blew
them out (twice) with the leaf blower gutter attachment. Which I've used
twice a year for ten years anyway. So since nothing else here has changed, I
go with a blocked downspout allowing water to pool and overflow the gutter
as this same gutter does in thunderstorms when I haven't cleaned the seed
pods and/or leaves out of the screen catcher shoved down into the downspout
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