Electric fence to deter copper thieves

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On 11/21/2012 10:39 AM, HeyBub wrote:

It's too bad they limit the current on the fence.
I love stories like this:
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/gary/copper-thief-electrocuted-in-gary-church-lot/article_0550e754-deac-500d-96e8-5001712c2403.html
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On 11-21-2012 11:53, Bernt Berger wrote:

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/lake/gary/copper-thief-electrocuted-in-gary-church-lot/article_0550e754-deac-500d-96e8-5001712c2403.html I can't find the story on the web now, but three or four years ago ,,,,
A lady looked out at night and saw vehicles in the neighbor's driveway.
She knew the neighbors were on vacation, so she called the police.
Police found three or four men in the basement, water up to their waists.
They went in to steal the plumbing, and didn't turn the water off before starting to cut. When the flow began, they STILL didn't turn it off. Before long, water reached something electrical and put them in the dark. Not their house, so they couldn't remember which way the stairs were.
The punch line was that one of them lived next door, married to the woman who called the police.
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Based on the number of wire thieves that end up electrocuting themselves, perhaps not all of them are aware that insulated cutters exist, or even, apparently, that electricity can kill you. I say: "Turn the juice up and let them cook." Install a CCTV cam to post the videos on YouTube.
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:04:27 -0500, "Robert Green"

they are often steeling from much higher voltage systems.
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Is the fence allowed to zap a thief that is not there to steal copper? If yes, isn't that a bobby trap (which is usually illegal)? If no, how is the fence going to tell a copper thief from a general thief?
And, why 7000 volts? Why not 6000, or 8000?
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A useless endeavor in the first place..... Any competent thief would simply throw a metal cable across the wires or lean a piece of EMT against it and let the system short itself out. Anything that is built like that will definitely have fuses or breakers..... It ain't rocket surgery.... Probably deter really stupid people, tho, that decide to take a piss against it before going to work.
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bob wrote:

Right. Booby-traps are always illegal, since before the Magna Carta - and there's a simple reason:
There are giant classes of people who may enter your property without your knowledge or even permission. These include: * A peace officer with a valid search warrant, * A firefighter dealing with a fire * A child who has no criminal capability * A homeless person involved only in a civil tresspass * Where you've waived permission in advance, such as obtaining a liquor license * A game warden on the hunt for poachers or a wounded animal * ANY OTHER exigent circumstance where human life is at stake or significant property damage may result
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